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Offline DeepCut

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #105 on: December 13, 2011, 10:05:43 PM »
@ a.king, good post, especially about EVERYTHING at 12v.

BUT, i wouldn't rely on battery readings as perfect proof, have you ever gone to battery university ?

http://batteryuniversity.com/

http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html

http://leadacidbatterydesulfation.yuku.com/

http://www.progressivedyn.com/battery_basics.html

They seem simple but they are definitely not - it's depressing :(

Even taking specific gravity readings (which are more accurate than a volt/amp meter), you cannot be exact.

@ marius, excellent work mate :) How does it respond to different loads ? How about a resistive load that is the same as the input resistance requirement ?

Is your scope and it's probes capable of taking proper integrated power measurements ?

None of the well-educated skeptics will accept anything less than proper power integration calculations using a high-bandwidth scope. And it IS those people we will have to convince if we want to put out plans for a unit that is OU, easily-operable AND passes electric safety standards.

Something that has infuriated me recently, in the video i made of apparently more out than in :



Bear in mind i'm an eager-retard in electronics ...

I'm using a DMM to read voltage and an AMM to read current.

I now know that, because i short the output with the ammeter, that's why the DMM reading is zero.

So, not only am i an eager-retard, i'm an eager-retard who misses the completely obvious ... anyway ...

So the DMM reads 430-ish volts, then i put the AMM across the output and i get 13mA.

Not only that, but the load of the resistor in the AMM induces the AUL effect, which speeds up the rotor, increasing the voltage and potentially increasing the amperage if i had a scope to read that ?

There's obviously a lot i don't know and part of that huge body of un-knowledge includes something which can explain this.


Cheers,

DC.






Experience is a hard teacher, it gives the test first and the lesson afterward.


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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #106 on: December 13, 2011, 11:29:38 PM »
I'm fully aware of the hastle with batteries. It's a good starting point that is all. If you are really ou it will be obvious because your batts will charge up as if on a 10 amp battery charger. Then the fun begins. If you are on the borderline, then even if you are ou it's not worth it. You may as well get a solar panel.  The point is that if you reach ou strongly, Kapanadze style, you can use batteries to normalise voltages and dump the current into the grid via a grid tie inverter. Kapanadze has many tricks including a way to superimpose 50 hz on his output. Just getting that right can take years. So mine is a work around solution. Even magnacoaster dumps his output into 4 deep cycle batteries. I don't think we should get into the downside of batteries. Just get the device to work, and take it from there. The other alternative is expensive true rms meters and a whole lot of gear which could still give you a wrong result. I'm not interested in 1 watt ou. I've had that for a long time. I'm looking for serious power and so I suspect is everyone else. Remember there are people from poor countries also looking to replicate. That's why I call my system a poor man's guide. It's a guide that's all.  The best way to prove ou is to self run without batteries and use a capacitor like Kapanadze. For me the breakthrough is in the coil-foil-capacitor. That is the real revelation. Steinmetz tells us that the dielectric field is at right angles to the electric field. So I've been experimenting with my coil-foil-capacitor, trying to find it's secrets. Yes I agree that batteries can be misleading but I'm waiting for the day the battery meter readings go off the  scale! :) :) :)

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #107 on: December 14, 2011, 12:27:35 PM »
This si Tesla secret, Kapanadze secret, Gray ... and many more.
Understanding this simple schematic will get you all there.

Regards,
Romero

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2011, 04:05:23 PM »
@ a.king, thanks for that, i really have to read up on Kapanadze, i tend to get blinkers on my own project.

Thanks for schematic Romero and thanks for video wings :)


Cheers,

DC.
Experience is a hard teacher, it gives the test first and the lesson afterward.

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2011, 11:33:40 PM »
I have tested lots of coils and configurations recently and from all of them the smallest one, second picture, works the best.

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #111 on: December 16, 2011, 04:48:35 PM »
@romero
Can you tell me what you used for extra insulation between the strips of foil if any ?

Cheers Hitman,

PS: still waiting for my new Oscope and signal gen..............

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #112 on: December 16, 2011, 05:56:49 PM »
@romero
Can you tell me what you used for extra insulation between the strips of foil if any ?

Cheers Hitman,

PS: still waiting for my new Oscope and signal gen..............
Hi,
I used plastic foil.The copper foil comes with a paper foil on one side but that is the same dimension with the copper foil and I had to isolate it better or I will get sparks. It works fine for now.
That is not the final design, dielectric used is very important. After some experiments yesterday I found that glass works best and using glass will prevent fire. These capacitor/coils can ignite if not properly isolated. Playing with different frequency I end up transforming all setup into a induction heater, melting the copper wire that goes thru the middle of the coil and the ferrite almost exploded. Very dangerous... I was feeling heat but could not figure out wher is comming from :)
It is also fun playing with different ideas and learning from mistakes. I have a long list of ideas to be tested but I need to work too. Getting closer to Christmas I will have to pause experimenting for a while and spend more time with the family and the kids.

Question for more clever people:
How do we separate particles created by a plasma field, so we can have positive and negative separately? I need it but without diodes, I can do it with diodes but will not last.
I believe that there are materials that will attract positive  charges and other materials that will attract negative ones, aluminium and copper are behaving the same.

Best regards,
Romero

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #113 on: December 16, 2011, 07:12:52 PM »
Going out on a limb-

one needed to listen more carefully while watching Sem77 (delamorto) disassembling his unit.

when he finally removes all from the coil and places it on the table, I could swear the sound is like
ceramic tube!

Garry

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #114 on: December 16, 2011, 09:24:37 PM »
How do we separate particles created by a plasma field, so we can have positive and negative separately? I need it but without diodes, I can do it with diodes but will not last.
I believe that there are materials that will attract positive  charges and other materials that will attract negative ones, aluminium and copper are behaving the same.

Best regards,
Romero
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just feeling ... use 2 material with different multipactor characteristics and you have 2 different potential due to different electrons emissions

see as example the materials table in this document
http://www.upv.es/satelite/trabajos/Grupo9_99.00/multipac.htm


bismuth and ... aluminium like Schwartz' ERR Fluxgenerator ?
http://www.examiner.com/breakthrough-energy-in-national/update-on-schwartz-err-fluxgenerator

see in this videos
&feature=player_embedded
&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

ESA test bismuth as surface treatment in order to reduce Multipactor effect ... soo bismuth have less electron emission
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/conferences/03C26/papers/p009d.pdf


« Last Edit: January 16, 2014, 10:07:57 PM by Wings »

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #115 on: December 16, 2011, 09:56:20 PM »
Thank you @Wings , I am already trying different methods.
Below are some scope shots while testing using Ozone as source. I believe it can be dangerous if I breath too much of it. In few seconds it feels the whole room .Source is a 5kv NPS.

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #116 on: December 16, 2011, 10:08:47 PM »
Thank you @Wings , I am already trying different methods.
Below are some scope shots while testing using Ozone as source. I believe it can be dangerous if I breath too much of it. In few seconds it feels the whole room .Source is a 5kv NPS.

have you see differences in current like here?
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/images/s_gdpldirbak.jpg

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #117 on: December 16, 2011, 10:32:18 PM »
Thank you @Wings , I am already trying different methods.
Below are some scope shots while testing using Ozone as source. I believe it can be dangerous if I breath too much of it. In few seconds it feels the whole room .Source is a 5kv NPS.

have you see differences in current like here?
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/images/s_gdpldirbak.jpg
It is quite difficult right now to compare and do proper measurements. The scope I use is USB connected to PC and it is very sensitive to all these fields. I don't care too much about how much in or out, I know out is many times greater.
All I need now is to understand it better and make it better eliminating the diodes I am curenttly use but if I am not careful will burn quickly, I have already burned lots of them.
I remember in old times I used to fix old tube TV's and the high voltage diode was super strong.
Maybe a home made diode will be better, I need to investigate more.

Romero
« Last Edit: December 16, 2011, 10:34:10 PM by Romero »

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #118 on: December 17, 2011, 09:49:07 PM »
RE Plasma fields
Another way is to dump the field to earth. Then  you intercept the dump with a load in series. So the earth side becomes negative and the plasma side becomes positive, the load is powered in between. I believe that's the way Kapanadze did it and also Moray and Donald Smith.

Cheers HH :)

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Re: Tesla- Kapanadze generator
« Reply #119 on: December 17, 2011, 10:47:48 PM »
RE Plasma fields
Another way is to dump the field to earth. Then  you intercept the dump with a load in series. So the earth side becomes negative and the plasma side becomes positive, the load is powered in between. I believe that's the way Kapanadze did it and also Moray and Donald Smith.

Cheers HH :)
Dumping it at the same frequency will not work, we need to adjust dumping frequency, reduce it at 50Hz or close.
The way I am doing it now works fine for a while but kills the diodes if I have fluctuation in the system.
The ozone has become a problem now, it fills the room very quick and takes hours to disipate. I  feel that is affecting breathing. It will be much better to continue this experiment outside but it is too cold now. I found that increasing the frequency the ozone is not that much but the field effect is still there. I am working to see what is happening if reaction is done in a sealed glass container.
If the field is manipulated at 50 hz then we will get 50 Hz out.
The field is in sync with the coil that is pushing it towards the collector, I can visualize it now, when I apply DC to the coil that surrounds the field I can see the field disturbed, pushed away, If I apply AC the interesting things are happening, the field moves from left to the right and there is where the collector must be placed. This collector is made from 2 sheets, one aluminium and one copper. I believe I have dicovered another way to capture that movement but it needs more investigations. Diodes are a bless and a curse too. I tried today with home made diodes, aluminium + stainless and it works but not good enough, the big advantage is that it will not burn.
Below are pictures with a new model built today.
Has anyone tested a tesla coil or kacher wound on a glass tube? A kacher with 2 transistors and 2 resistors and primary having a tap in the middle of the coil running like a flip flop???? I suggest people should try and look at the scope...

Regards ,
Romero

 

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