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Recently Stivep from OU.com has released a video with a succesful replication.

There are quite a few successful replications :)

http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/replications.htm

I hate high voltage hehe but I might try a replication in the future, just too busy with work right now to do anything :(

Cheers Hitman

Quote from: Hitman on October 17, 2011, 04:06:29 AM
There are quite a few successful replications :)

http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/replications.htm

I hate high voltage hehe but I might try a replication in the future, just too busy with work right now to do anything :(

Cheers Hitman

as you can see one replication in that list is mine. I was replicating Naudin's work and has no conection with Kapanadze, might look like that but it is not. No ou there just wrong calculations.
Kapanadze new schematic published by stivep and the group has more potential and I am sure that in just few days we will have some success in replicating. I am also playing with the caduceus coil and it is really different than the previous primary coil.

Regards,
Romero

This is how I understand constructing the coil, not very sure about the secondary...
Romero

@ romero and anyone else that is interested latest video from stivep at overunity with the kapanadze generator enjoy all the best from ron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9UKBEEKx4w

I have tried caduceus coils and not seen anything special.

Any guides to what to do with them, the one's i've found aren't very helpful ?

This experiment bombarding the ferrite can be done without high voltage.
I went back to my old Magnacoasters device and tried it there as I have already most of the required parts in place.
I removed the magnets and at about 170khz the output is huge, about 1600 volts, but the ferrite gets untouchable hot.
The  bridge rectifier 1000v/40amp destroyed... my mistake I should have had some load initialy at the first test but I didn't.
I had spares from my RG1 and I replaced it and now is properly set.
While I had it at that frequency I inserted the magnets back at the ends of the coil and now the ferrite is not getting that hot but the output dropped to 1320 volts. Touching one end of the coil with one  av plug with 2 capacitors and a spark creates powerful sparks.
This is worth investigating further as the power used to drive the coil is not increased by the sparks or the load I connected in series with the capacitors on the av plug.

People are sending messages asking why I am not finishing my RG1 and I do other experiments leaving this one behind... well, I will drop and leave every other experiment for a succesful solid state device.
With this new generator because of the noise I am limited to not more than maybe one hour in the evening and the time after I use for this other experiments. Weekend is a bit better but even then, must go to shopping do other important things at home...
This is the problem living in London and having neighbours with common walls.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: DeepCut on October 20, 2011, 08:11:06 PM
I have tried caduceus coils and not seen anything special.

Any guides to what to do with them, the one's i've found aren't very helpful ?

If you want to see the difference and you have a tesla coil at home build 2 primarys from the same type of wire same lenght, one in normal fashion and one in caduceus, try each one and you will have the answer.

Regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,

Can you give us a circuit or something to work from ?

Garry

Hi guys, Is anyone else having problems logging on to overunity.com? Or is it just me? I get "database error". Is the site down for the last 24 hrs+. I also am not receiving any EMs from overunity.com. I tried to EM Stephan but I don't know if he got it. (harti@harti.com)? Seems very strange after this recent breakthrough :o

@tektron yes having same problem at overunity, stefan probably getting to many ads running and caused it to crash lol. no doubt it will be up soon all the best ron

@ romero on the ball again i see with your tests to get similar results without the high voltage keep us informed of your successes which i have no doubt you will have many  all the best ron

Quote from: landownunder on October 30, 2011, 05:46:41 AM
@tektron yes having same problem at overunity, stefan probably getting to many ads running and caused it to crash lol. no doubt it will be up soon all the best ron

Thanks Ron, I was starting to freak out  :(

Latest video from from stivep on the kapeanadze device 10 watts in 1 kw out they want everyone to save a copy of this video but i don't know how all the best ron

link here    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbeseiPPCeM

Quote from: garrym on October 30, 2011, 01:53:35 AM
Hi Romero,

Can you give us a circuit or something to work from ?

Garry

This is my variant to Magnacoasters circuit. The coil has ferrite core, 2.5 ohm / 647mH.
Use it without magnets for the start. I am using 1 inch magnet for one side and 3 x 1 inch magnets for the other side.
I am using this PWM: http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/pulse-generators/power-pulse-modulator-ocxi/prod_40.html
I changed the transistor with 47N60C3  and removed the power diode at the output.
You can run it with aprox 6-7 watts and have much higher output. It is better if people will try and see themself. I prefer not to upload a video and start again another critics and unlimited messages.
This is easy and can be replicated by anyone, not neccesary to use that circuit I have.

Regards,
Romero

@ romero hope you are well, i would like to ask a question if i may if You can run it with aprox 6-7 watts and have much higher output. what would that output be please. thanks ron

Quote from: landownunder on October 31, 2011, 08:34:00 AM
@ romero hope you are well, i would like to ask a question if i may if You can run it with aprox 6-7 watts and have much higher output. what would that output be please. thanks ron

I am using a 12v/50watt at the output, not fully lit but I think about 60-70%.
I started replicating step by step Stivep toroid construction. I have all the parts but I need to find a way to cut the ferrite toroid.
1.There is still some missing info in their setup:
2.The signal applied for the 2 primarys is square, sine...?
3.The high voltage output  AC or DC?
4.Direction for the windings...???

I guess I will have to use my intuition.
The output they are talking about will leave all other devices I am working  far behind.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on October 30, 2011, 05:12:55 PM

Quote from: garrym on October 30, 2011, 01:53:35 AM
Hi Romero,

Can you give us a circuit or something to work from ?

Garry

This is my variant to Magnacoasters circuit. The coil has ferrite core, 2.5 ohm / 647mH.
Use it without magnets for the start. I am using 1 inch magnet for one side and 3 x 1 inch magnets for the other side.
I am using this PWM: http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/pulse-generators/power-pulse-modulator-ocxi/prod_40.html
I changed the transistor with 47N60C3  and removed the power diode at the output.
You can run it with aprox 6-7 watts and have much higher output. It is better if people will try and see themself. I prefer not to upload a video and start again another critics and unlimited messages.
This is easy and can be replicated by anyone, not neccesary to use that circuit I have.

Regards,
Romero


Hi Romero,

Sound like you have another OU device.  I like to try this. How is the frequency and the  duty cycle it was run to  generate the OU effect ?

Thanks and Regards,

M.E

@M.E
let's not assume it is OU, it needs more testing and measurements.
Wait until I can be sure and not start replicating yet.

Romero

I started working on replicating 'Stivep and the group' toroid ideea.
I managed to split one of my smaller toroids, 9 cm diameter. The other big one, 14 cm diameter, I will leave for later. I want to make some quick testing with this small one first.
Below are pictures at different stages during toroid and coil construction.
I used 3 braid wires (from a coax cable) in parallel to cover completely the side of the toroid.

Now I have the big one getting ready.

The big toroid is ready now.
Testing time tonight.
I am not sure if the secondary must be wound in caduceus mode so I did it just in case, If not it should work anyway.

I have tested the setup but not to much luck so far. The 50 Hz signal generator is affected by the other one with higher frequency, blown one transistor in the 50 Hz generator.
While applying the high voltage the output drops instead of going up. I am sure it needs more adjustments but I must find a way for the generators not to affect eachother.

Quote from: Romero on October 31, 2011, 09:29:16 AM

Quote from: landownunder on October 31, 2011, 08:34:00 AM
@ romero hope you are well, i would like to ask a question if i may if You can run it with aprox 6-7 watts and have much higher output. what would that output be please. thanks ron

I am using a 12v/50watt at the output, not fully lit but I think about 60-70%.
I started replicating step by step Stivep toroid construction. I have all the parts but I need to find a way to cut the ferrite toroid.
1.There is still some missing info in their setup:
2.The signal applied for the 2 primarys is square, sine...?
3.The high voltage output  AC or DC?
4.Direction for the windings...???

I guess I will have to use my intuition.
The output they are talking about will leave all other devices I am working  far behind.

Regards,
Romero

@romero
How did you find the resonant freq of your ferrite? did you use the white noise method described at OU ?

- He says the type signal applied to the 2 primarys is not critical but I think he is using a ramp signal or sawtooth.
- Output should be AC.
- I think he also mentions his output coil is wound CCW (I'll watch the video again)

I have also put my other projects aside to work on this but I haven't had much success YET !

Cheers Hitman

@Hitman
I have used every method I can think of.. the white noise I generated with the pc. that part is not critical but the other 50 Hz input is my problem now.
I am thinking of a different circuit to get it right. Today I am not doing anything as I have not enough sleep last night.

Romero

Not sure if you seen this:

Quote
You need to support resonance all time.

First you use those 2 copper plates after generator and generate white noise to it.
When doing that you check where are peaks on spectrum analizer and apply correct resonant frequency. No matter what type of signal is, the output should be sinus wave on secondary coil. In our case the resonance was 1,66Mhz

Now, when you put resonant frequency in, attach frequency analizer into primary coil of 51 turns (the other 16 turns are on first primary). Select highest peak from lowest frequency range. So it will be resonant frequency for that coil. In our case it was 382Khz.

After doing this, you need carrier wave, in our case it is 50Hz. When you attach 50Hz to 16 turns coil and ferrite resonant on 51 turns coil, you need to synchronize pulses between in way you get large sinus 50Hz wave carring small high frequency pulses inside. For this we used TV set's horizontal and vertical lines sync circuit and adjusted its parameters to needed frequencies.

For each coil you need to make LC circuit acting as filter on needed frequencies. So you calculate capacitancy values in conventional way and test it.

If you manage get working circuit until this step, you should have OU already.

The paper between 2 pieces of toroid acts as insulator.

If you start discharging HV capacitor over spark gap to copper plates, it will make strong scalar magnetic wave impulse and amplifies output power while lowers needed input power from generators. Just be cautionous about this step, in our experiment the ferrite gone into pieces with load of 600W (150W is without sparks) after 15-20 minutes."

this was quoted from : http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/aidas/

and this is a schematic of what I could get from the video and original schematic.

Cheers Hitman

 >:(overunity down again >:(

hi everyone thought you might be interested in video from wattsup dude about the stivep device. all the best ron

http://www.youtube.com/user/wattsup1004?feature=mhee

Quote from: landownunder on November 04, 2011, 06:31:00 AM
hi everyone thought you might be interested in video from wattsup dude about the stivep device. all the best ron

http://www.youtube.com/user/wattsup1004?feature=mhee

Hi,
interesting, I've done some experimenting with it.
Below is a scope from the output  but not optimised. Today I received another signal generator that I can use with my existing one and be more accurate.

Romero

Smith Coil - Unusual effects.
Very intersting document that might apply to Kapanadze generator.
I have marked some very important info.

Scope shot while testing

Quote from: Romero on November 01, 2011, 08:29:58 PM
@Hitman
I have used every method I can think of.. the white noise I generated with the pc. that part is not critical but the other 50 Hz input is my problem now.
I am thinking of a different circuit to get it right. Today I am not doing anything as I have not enough sleep last night.

Romero

Romero, I know this post is a bit late but why couldn't you use a low voltage trans running on house current with a 5w resistor in series on the secondarys for your 50hz carrier jutst for testing? That way you would only need to risk one sig jenny.

Quote from: TEKTRON on November 09, 2011, 01:50:05 AM

Quote from: Romero on November 01, 2011, 08:29:58 PM
@Hitman
I have used every method I can think of.. the white noise I generated with the pc. that part is not critical but the other 50 Hz input is my problem now.
I am thinking of a different circuit to get it right. Today I am not doing anything as I have not enough sleep last night.

Romero

Romero, I know this post is a bit late but why couldn't you use a low voltage trans running on house current with a 5w resistor in series on the secondarys for your 50hz carrier jutst for testing? That way you would only need to risk one sig jenny.

Hi,
i tried that too but no success, I think that my ferrite is not right or maybe I need different frequencyes. I have to build another coil using the yoke from a monitor, I have 2 of them and I will try them today.

Regards,
Romero

Romero,
Are you testing with the braid between the two halfs, like in these pics? Its been said on the forums that you shouldn't have it like that. It should be looping over, or connected by a wire looping over the ferrite. Braid also shouldn't touch ferrite at all. Good luck with further testing.
I'm waiting on signal generators...

Quote from: free_nrg on November 10, 2011, 08:44:47 PM
Romero,
Are you testing with the braid between the two halfs, like in these pics? Its been said on the forums that you shouldn't have it like that. It should be looping over, or connected by a wire looping over the ferrite. Braid also shouldn't touch ferrite at all. Good luck with further testing.
I'm waiting on signal generators...

Originaly I had it wrong then I cut the braid ends and it is looped over now. Braid is not touching ferrite at all.Today I had some better results, I can see some difference when the HV is applied, all after adding capacitors to the braid.... NO OU still
I also had some playing with LaserSaber joule ringer and there I got very good results. I will post some info later

Romero

Kapanadze used foil copper for the coil/capacitor in his aquarium generator, look at the pictures below.

Here is a tested schematic that should work for anyone, this is the most easy arrangement.
The caduceus coil in the picture is what I used for this experiment.

Happy Christmas everyone!

Romero

What are you telling us with this circuit romero as i am not familiar with the setup at all. all the best wishes from ron

Quote from: landownunder on December 03, 2011, 01:41:02 PM
What are you telling us with this circuit romero as i am not familiar with the setup at all. all the best wishes from ron

just make a caduceus coil like the one shown in the picture, at one end of the caduceus you connect the capacitor at the other end the spark gap and the diodes.
On top of the caduceus we have the output coil wound on a piece of plastic pipe a little bit bigger
than caduceus coil diameter to allow you to slide left and right.
The number of turns are not very important initially, once you are confident it works you can play with right number of turns... nothing is critical here, use anything you have and have it started.
You must understand that when the spark occurs it closes the caduceus coil inducing power to the output coil. the spark gap remains cold. use small value capacitors with high voltage capability.
We need fast switching at the spark gap and that can be obtain with small value capacitor. 

Regards,
Romero

I am getting messages regarding caduceus coil being difficult to be built. If it is that difficult then just start with a bifilar winding just pay attention at the wireing, one end of one coil connects to the capacitor and the other end of the capacitor goes to the begining of the other coil.The ends left of the coil to the diodes and spark gap...

I hope that helps.
Romero

Should the output coil be caduceus wind also, like in your previous pics?

Quote from: free_nrg on December 03, 2011, 05:19:25 PM
Should the output coil be caduceus wind also, like in your previous pics?

output coil can be a normal wound coil

Hi Romero,

Thank you for the present.

If you can spare some time (I hate asking), could you please also post a pic of your output coil
and possibly some dimensions.

I have been hesitant to dabble with this, but not so long ago, built the HV section from a flyback
running from just a couple of volts and providing a nice spark.

From your pic of the CC, it seems that there are well over 80 or 90 turns, and I wonder the aprrox
length and diameter of the CC.

Please feel no pressure. Patience abounds.

Thanks, Garry

Hi Romero!
Thanks for the Christmas pesent  :) .
If i use the plasma ball HV sparks, should be enough ?

Can anyone remember the link to the youtube of how to wiind a CC?

Garry

Found it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjr7pDXsmkg

For an easy way to make CC -

take length of speaker wire, figure 8 flex and wind with a simple twist - flip the wire over 180 degrees.

Heres a pic.

I need to confirm though, is is only one flip per turn OR is there another flip on the backside ?

@mariuscivic
Using plasma globe is enough to get started, use an aluminium foil to capture from the globe.Use small capacitor, smallest you have first then you can add more in parallel or series, depending what you have.

Romero

@garrym
there is a flip on the back side too for a original caduceus. It can be built with a twist only one side too but I never tested.
below is a picture that shows how I did mine.
First I wound 2 wires in parallel then fixed the ends for one of them and unwound the other one.
I used a small drop of superglue for each wind just to make sure is going to keep the spacing.
I wound the other one now in the other direction having a flip in the front and another one in the back.
For the project I proposed early today you can also use  simple bifilar wire too.

Romero

Hi Rom,

What a great idea to keep the even spacing. I like it.

Would it be too much to ask how the winding of the second wire, now wound in the opposite direction, gets the bump
in it ?

Thanks, Garry

p.s. even if you take a closeup of 1 or 2 turns, that would be a great help.

also, don't forget, give us a look at your output coil. Thanks

@garrym
Few pictures with this experiment.
I am preparing to build capacitor/coil using those copper tape role.
In second picture you can see a normal bifilar coil, that can be used instead caduceus coil.
Connections are: 1- and 2 are going to the diodes and the spark gap and 1 and 2- connects to the capacitor.
I hope that helps.

Romero

Garrym,
The caduceus coil isn't that complicated to wind. Just draw 2 lines on the form, 180? opposite each other . Wind first wind across the coil leaving a gap the size of the wire your using and when you wind back across, cross the wire over where the line intersects the first wind. That way all the cross points will be nice and straight.

Romero,
I have a 5000v power supply i bought some time ago, would it be ok to use this insted of NST? If more voltage is required i could add voltage multiplier(caps and diodes).
Should these be high voltage diodes? Type?

Quote from: free_nrg on December 04, 2011, 01:17:43 PM
Garrym,
The caduceus coil isn't that complicated to wind. Just draw 2 lines on the form, 180? opposite each other . Wind first wind across the coil leaving a gap the size of the wire your using and when you wind back across, cross the wire over where the line intersects the first wind. That way all the cross points will be nice and straight.

Romero,
I have a 5000v power supply i bought some time ago, would it be ok to use this insted of NST? If more voltage is required i could add voltage multiplier(caps and diodes).
Should these be high voltage diodes? Type?

my recent experimenting shows that starting with about 3ooov the capacitors charges quick enough but the most important is that switching is fast enough.
With the diagram I posted, the diodes will polarize the field in the caduceus winding and charge the capacitor at the same time. When the spark occurs the field will colapse inducing more power to the secondary coil.
The ground connection needs improving too, having a variable capacitor there will allow to increase the output.

Romero

Hi Romero nice work

Can you please specify which model of HV diode and Capacitor values you used, because I have no HV stuff at home and I have to buy this components on Ebay.
I have only 10KV 50ma NST at home.

Best Regards

JoeFR

Quote from: JoeFR on December 04, 2011, 02:41:14 PM
Hi Romero nice work

Can you please specify which model of HV diode and Capacitor values you used, because I have no HV stuff at home and I have to buy this components on Ebay.
I have only 10KV 50ma NST at home.

Best Regards

JoeFR

Have a look at the picture and see what I use. I have used smaller diodes 10ma/15000v too but don't last more than few minutes.
The small capacitors are 2200pf/2000volts, those are good used in series and parallel depending on the coil.
Diagram shown is basic ideea, it works but the best is to use an inverter on the output.To rectify the output high power/highvoltage diode to be used too, smaller diodes will burn instantly.
I have been working on it all day, now i am in the process to build the capacitor/coil using copper tape.

Regards,
Romero

Thanks guys,

Garry

Hi Romero thanks, I ordered some similar components from Ebay

Please take some pictures during building capacitor/coil using copper tape so we can replicate.

Best Regards

JoeFR

Romero,

If we add more capacitors, we want to increase the frequency of the spark gap, correct? I havent seen anything on the out put yet. Just playin around with it. Do you suggest a regular light bulb for load?
I noticed if i take an additional capacitor and touch one of the leads to the cap thats already on the CC, spark gap frequency increases.

Quote from: free_nrg on December 04, 2011, 08:09:46 PM
Romero,

If we add more capacitors, we want to increase the frequency of the spark gap, correct? I havent seen anything on the out put yet. Just playin around with it. Do you suggest a regular light bulb for load?
I noticed if i take an additional capacitor and touch one of the leads to the cap thats already on the CC, spark gap frequency increases.

try with a 12 volt/5watt bulb first

Ok, thats what im using now.
When you say min. 30 winds, is that counting both directions or thirty winds one way then back across? I'm wondering if maybe I don't have enough turns. I have 40 turns.  Twenty in one direction and then twenty back.
I'm also not exactly sure what to connect the ground of the power supply to.  Right now I don't have it connected to anything.  Should it be an earth ground?
Thanks for your help!

Quote from: free_nrg on December 04, 2011, 09:08:37 PM
Ok, thats what im using now.
When you say min. 30 winds, is that counting both directions or thirty winds one way then back across? I'm wondering if maybe I don't have enough turns. I have 40 turns.  Twenty in one direction and then twenty back.
I'm also not exactly sure what to connect the ground of the power supply to.  Right now I don't have it connected to anything.  Should it be an earth ground?
Thanks for your help!

about 30 winds both directions or 15 per direction, is not critical anyway, all you need is to see more power out than in then you can do it better, I am still investigating what is the best option.
I just found that a small capacitor in parallel with the spark gap(about 1000pf/10kv) will increase the output and protect the diodes.
The biggest problem I have now is to rectify the output, it blows the diodes instantly when tuned for maximum output.
This schematic works without the ground too but when the ground is connected the output increases many times. Instead of the ground you can connect the other end from the HV transformer to a air coil, any lenght, longer is better or a metal sheet.
Having a ferrite rod inside the coil will also increase the power but I am trying not to use it as it gets very hot inside.
People must understand that we are looking here to charge and dump a capacitor in a different way.
Stay away from computers or electronic devices while testing, it can damage them very easy, everything you touch arround while in operation becomes charged, we need to find a way to isolate it from surrounding.

Romero

Hi Romero,
This sounds like wonderful news. Why don't you output to a kettle heater element. If you need one I can send you one. At least then you can turn the beast up! And maybe have a cup of tea! And stop blowing diodes for a while! Such a device is worth replicating on it's own. It could maybe drive an oil filled radiator? That would be brilliant too. Let's think outside the box.
What about a step down transformer wound on a ferrite. Then maybe IGBT's could be used. They have to be below 800 volts but can handle 100's of killowatts and are quite cheap. Also Don Smith had a simple solution but I've never tried it. If you want I can look up his suggested method. He had a simple method to obtain the mains voltage at the required frequency.
Hope my suggestions help. If you want to close the loop maybe the transformer method is best. A bit lossy but who cares if the loop is closed. Even Kapanadze uses a step down output transformer we think.
Good luck, keep going, watching your posts with anticipation!!

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Cheers H. Well done. :)

Romero,
Definitely a strong field around the device.  Still haven't been able to get 12v 5w bulb to light.  There is high voltage there because I can have a spark gap across the output coil.
Gotta order some more caps.  I don't have too many different values on hand. Maybe I'll wind a different output coil. I'll try the cap across the spark gap.


Edit: Just went back and reread some posts.  Realized I had it wired up wrong. So your cap on the caduceus coil goes to opposite ends of the coil.  The other two opposite ends go to diodes and spark gap,  is this correct? 

Quote from: a.king21 on December 05, 2011, 12:02:49 AM
Hi Romero,
This sounds like wonderful news. Why don't you output to a kettle heater element. If you need one I can send you one. At least then you can turn the beast up! And maybe have a cup of tea! And stop blowing diodes for a while! Such a device is worth replicating on it's own. It could maybe drive an oil filled radiator? That would be brilliant too. Let's think outside the box.
What about a step down transformer wound on a ferrite. Then maybe IGBT's could be used. They have to be below 800 volts but can handle 100's of killowatts and are quite cheap. Also Don Smith had a simple solution but I've never tried it. If you want I can look up his suggested method. He had a simple method to obtain the mains voltage at the required frequency.
Hope my suggestions help. If you want to close the loop maybe the transformer method is best. A bit lossy but who cares if the loop is closed. Even Kapanadze uses a step down output transformer we think.
Good luck, keep going, watching your posts with anticipation!!

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Cheers H. Well done. :)

Hi,
it works fine with that type of bulbs in the picture below. I need to recify the output to be able to controll it and for the self loop. I have ordered more powerful diodes. If the tunning is not perfect then I can run a home made inverter and the output is better and not flickering but when I get more power from the coil the diodes gets very hot and die quick. Another thing is to make sure that when there is no load the output capacitor is not going to overcharge, that can be a big danger.
A normal transformer does not work directly on the output unless I will redo the windings with isolated wire.
I will try a microwave transformer tomorrow, maybe that can help, applying the output to the high voltage winding.

Best regards,
Romero

Hi

This is my CC . I know that 1n4007 are no good but i did try  and surprise.....they didn't burned, but i couldn't get any spark after the diods.Today i'll go hunting for some HV diods. When i applyed the HV to the CC i could see that an economic light bulb begins to ''turn on'' at around 10cm of the CC.

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 05, 2011, 08:15:17 AM
Hi

This is my CC . I know that 1n4007 are no good but i did try  and surprise.....they didn't burned, but i couldn't get any spark after the diods.Today i'll go hunting for some HV diods. When i applyed the HV to the CC i could see that an economic light bulb begins to ''turn on'' at around 10cm of the CC.

maybe if you will use many of them in series will not burn so quick depending on your HV  transformer output.
If no spark then you will not get anything, must spark.Use a capacitor on the spark gap side too, that will help a lot in protecting the diodes.Frequency of the HV transformer should be above 20kHz.
I found that even a line output transformer with diodes in can be used if we connect the diodes on the side without diodes, and the other side leave ungrounded or grounded using another spark gap.
I will try to use a voltage divider today and see if my diodes will survive. I have about 6 of them left before the new ones arrive.

Regards,
Romero

Schematic to be tested later on today.

M.O.T.

I am a bit sceptical about Microwave oven transformers because of the core. They are configured at 50Hz which is OK to step up. But maybe this circuit is high frequency, and so the core cannot handle it. That's why I think Naudin failed. He tried an MOT according to his videos.
I think Kapanadze and Don Smith may have used an air core. Still I hope the MOT works. I will be making the coils today. I think we have to try to find a way to avoid these  expensive diodes. In the army surplus days you could get plenty at a cheap price, but today they are hard to source second hand and are really expensive new. That's why I thought using an  IGBT as a diode might work.
Are you using the coil capacitor in this build or just sticking to ordinary coils for now?
Anyhow, if you succeed in looping I for one would be willing to buy the parts from you and I am sure others would also. So you would get a profit for your good work. I think you should think about producing a kit. Then the profits could buy you lots of new gear.
BTW have you an intelligent guess as to input vs output power? An idea would be welcome.
This seems really promising .
Cheers

@a.king21
the only way I can measure now is the input power comparing with the brightness of the bulb as I am not able to measure the output.The brightness is much more than the input power but must be sure, I have a simple ideea to have it self run reducing the input then the diodes will survive for a while. I have just discovered in searching for some parts in my boxes, 50 diodes 3amp/1000v. I will have 10 of them in series for each side and see them survive or not. The high power diodes(40kV/1A) I ordered are comming from China and might take some time.
I will test the microwave transformer and see what is happening, I have plenty of them, I am not worried if it burns.
I have large 20cm diameter ferrite toroid, that might be better, but one at the time.
My neon transformer I am using is a 220volt/5000v but I have modified it and it works now with 12 volt.I am using a signal generator to control it as I need to adjust the duty cycle too.

I read on ou.com that wattsup had his flyback run at 4-5 amp input, I am sure there is a short in that output coil, in my case will go to max 4 amp if I short the output, but running the system I have now will oscilate from 1 to max 2 amps while the driving transistor(mosfet) remains cold.

I am using a TC4420 driver for the mosfet, I would recommend everyone that for any circuit in any device using mosfets to use a driver like that or similar, the difference is huge.

If we can 'organise' the particles inside the coil/capacitor then we can avoid these expensive diodes, I am experimenting that too...
Looking at Kapanadze acuarium device I think that the vertical coil is actually a copper pipe connecting to the ground and the coil/capacitors wound on it. Folowing the ground cable going into the box I discovered that the main thick connection goes to that vertical copper pipe or coil.
We think that we have discovered his secret but not fully, he is using the ground as we use of the surrounding in connection with the ground, he dumps high voltage direct into the ground and in return he gets some equivalent of BEMF, this is ofcourse theory, not yet confirmed.

The AV Plug connection can be used in many devices... has anyone tried it on a Bedini coil? I did..
What about using it on magnet rotating discs with high voltage coils...? it works too

I am not planning to sell anything, this if free for all and I hope others experimenting will do the same.
If any of us will have a working and stable device we can use donate with PayPal but not more than that.

Best Regards,
Romero

That's great romero!  :)

I'm still working on the rotor(with even better results) and caduceus coil too.But for now i have too wait for the HV diods and various caps.
I'm happy to hear that you have some signs of posible OU.

I've started building high voltage diodes using uf5808...

Hi guys
Seems to be working  ;D
No measurments yet; must tune the cc better

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 06, 2011, 11:26:46 AM
Hi guys
Seems to be working  ;D
No measurments yet; must tune the cc better

Hi Mariuscivic,
good to hear that you have goos results.
Are you using capacitors in both sides of the coil?
Is the bulb you are using a 12volt? Last night I tried rectifiying the output directly to a 12 volt battery, it charges super fast with very little input power. I managed to have the inverter running on the battery while it was charged and seems to maintain charge and power a 240v/40watt bulb.
I had it running for about 25 minutes but it was late and I had to go to sleep.
I will have to leave it running for longer time to see if the battery will drop voltage.
The inverter used is home made no integrated circuits , schematic was posted few weeks back on forums by a french man, inverters with ic's might not work.
Is one of your coils high voltage in the magnet generator? if yes please try to use av plug there and let me know, try both ends of the coil, only one end will work properly to connect the av plug.
You can use 2 x 1n4007 just for testing.

Regards,
Romero

Brilliant result. I've tried this kind of experiment lots of times and battery voltage only went up slightly, but not with this build. In my experience you have to have it running for several hours, because the battery tends to "mock" you and goes up. I suspect it is because of the resonant frequency of the battery which you can sometimes hit. So it seems a brilliant result but you need to keep it on for days if you can to be really sure. Another option is to get a grid tie inverter and export the electricity into the grid. There is one on ebay for around ?90 and can handle 300 watts output. Also if you reduce the bulb to a cfl low energy then you should see battery go up constantly. If successfull can you post complete details please because I would like to replicate with other researchers. It is the ideal situation to power everything from a 12 volt battery. Holding my breath in anticipation.

Just finished making some high voltage diodes,takes a lot of time...

you think thats long, you should try making some solar panels hehe hours and hours of fun.

Cheers Hitman

Quote from: free_nrg on December 05, 2011, 01:05:28 AM
Romero,
Definitely a strong field around the device.  Still haven't been able to get 12v 5w bulb to light.  There is high voltage there because I can have a spark gap across the output coil.
Gotta order some more caps.  I don't have too many different values on hand. Maybe I'll wind a different output coil. I'll try the cap across the spark gap.

The resistance in a 12 volt light bulb can be as low as 1 ohm; this could lead to an impedance miss-match. Why not try a 220 volt incandescent? It might  do the trick. Or try various resistors in series. Good Luck. :)

@Hitman
I have built 700watt solar panels, and I still have cells for another 500watt. That is really time consuming, the cells are very fragile.

Below are some scope shots taken this evening, leaving the probe not connected at some distance from the coil.

Hi romero!
Nice shots from your scope. I made another vid with my replica. Unfortunatly for now i can't tell you the values of the caps, it's written only the voltage: 1600V.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTky3XVhHT0

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 07, 2011, 01:39:47 AM
Hi romero!
Nice shots from your scope. I made another vid with my replica. Unfortunatly for now i can't tell you the values of the caps, it's written only the voltage: 1600V.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTky3XVhHT0

Can you measure the resistance of your next 5 watt 12 volt light bulb please. Try to keep other light bulbs to the same resistance, using resistors if necessary. It appears you had a close impedance match in your setup, and that's why you burned your bulb out. The next bulbs you tried would be miss matched for resistance and that's probably why they would not work.  You should look at your plasma power supply. If you used the same one it will tell you the input power.
Good Luck! :)

Hi king21
the 12v 5W light bulb has around 3ohm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjeAfTlEP4

Lamp resistance change - nonlinear

As a rule of thumb, a lamp's hot operating resistance will be about 10 times its cold resistance.

http://www.moorepage.net/Lamps.html

Thanks for the link! This is good info

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 07, 2011, 12:02:20 PM
Hi king21
the 12v 5W light bulb has around 3ohm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjeAfTlEP4

Very promising video. Any idea of input power on power supply? Are your bulbs running hot or cold?
Remember in a cold electricity circuit capacitors take up to 12 hours to condition. So if you have dc capacitors in your circuit, they start to self charge, but decay like a tank circuit. The effect usually lasts for a couple of minutes after switch off. lol. I know cos I've had the 400volt "remember me" shock treatment.  :) Are you tempted to close the loop via an old car battery and inverter yet?

Right now i'm building another coil to see if i can take out more juice. The HV module (from plasma lamp) is sucking 190mA. The light bulbs for now are still cold but maybe becouse they are not fully lit. The caps i'm using are AC

@mariuscivic
try adding a ferrite rod inside the coil and also put some winding on that rod and check it.
If you don't have ferrite rod just use iron bar...

I have very good news regarding the coil/capacitor, something I never tried and turns to be ideal.
I am sure lots of people will replicate that... #I need to go now but I will be back soon with info about this new discovery.

Romero

The capacitor is the primary at the same time, when the spark gap in action the capacitor discharges inducing power to the secondary. The load has no effect to the primary as it is a capacitor not a closed coil.I have made terminals for the begining and the end on the capacitor terminals as I have other plans to extend this new discovery.
I tested with one coil at one end last night and today I built another coil with capacitors at both ends, fireing sequencial...
People should understand that this capacitor is connected to the spark gap no other coils connected, all we need to do is to maintain a continous spark gap fireing.

Romero

the capacitor can also be charged if we work in reverse, capturing the field from the coil.
I forgot to mention that the capacitor was built from a microwave capacitor foil.

Hi Romero, after thinking I have found the similarity between coil/capacitor and the coax coil from Kapanadze. Connecting the braid at one end, and the central wire at the other end it is working as primary after the sparkgap. There is no OU without tuning and optimalization.
Regards

Quote from: a.king21 on December 05, 2011, 12:02:49 AM
... Also Don Smith had a simple solution but I've never tried it. If you want I can look up his suggested method ...

Hi king, have you found this method yet, i really need it ?


Cheers,

DC.

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 07, 2011, 12:02:20 PM
Hi king21
the 12v 5W light bulb has around 3ohm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjeAfTlEP4

@mariuscivic,
Can you explain what the DC cap is hooked up to? 
Also I noticed that your wire on your caduceus coil (return winding) crosses over two wires at a time.  Is there a reason for that? Just wondering because others I've seen only cross over one wire at a time.  Thanks

Quote from: DeepCut on December 07, 2011, 07:57:48 PM

Quote from: a.king21 on December 05, 2011, 12:02:49 AM
... Also Don Smith had a simple solution but I've never tried it. If you want I can look up his suggested method ...

Hi king, have you found this method yet, i really need it ?


Cheers,

DC.

Here's the link  http://free-energy-info.co.uk/PJKBook.html

Chapter 3 page 49 onwards. But you might like to read the Don Smith section in that chapter to understand the principle. I've never tried it because I haven't got that far .... yet. In OU you only have to succeed once!
HH

Quote from: free_nrg on December 08, 2011, 12:34:19 AM

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 07, 2011, 12:02:20 PM
Hi king21
the 12v 5W light bulb has around 3ohm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcjeAfTlEP4

@mariuscivic,
Can you explain what the DC cap is hooked up to? 
Also I noticed that your wire on your caduceus coil (return winding) crosses over two wires at a time.  Is there a reason for that? Just wondering because others I've seen only cross over one wire at a time.  Thanks

The DC cap is part of HV module. The original one blew up  one year ago and i have replace it with another one with the same value but bigger in size(that's why it hangs out).
The return winding crosses two wires .That's becouse on the oposite side it doesnt cross another wire.  In this picture you can see that the wires are crossing each other both sides.My coil ,the returning winding is crossing only on one side. That's why it crosses two wires. I have noticed that too when i started making it. For now seems to be working like this. I have tuned the coils and the output is just a little bit more. The other coil that i made doesnt have such a good output; maybe couse the wire is thiner or maybe is just too long; anyway i have other plans with it.

Romero

That's very intresting theory about the cap beeing the primary.Do you have better results this way? ( i'm sure you do)
I've tryed the ferite inside the CC with many turns 1mm wire but couldn't see something special. I got better result puting inside the CC one relay coil

Thanks for the clarification Marius!

I have build another coil. This time i used bifilar for primary and connected like CC. It works better but maybe couse there are more turns in primary and secomdary. Here it is lighting a 220V 25W light bulb. The meter shows me the same 190mA input current with or without the load.

Interesting video on youtube  about kapanadze replication
all the best ron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek92QiKWshs

Hi everyone again  ;D

It's 3 o'clock in the morning and i just finished my fourth coil testing. The light bulb is 6V,0.5A and is continuously fully lit. The primary has 100m telephone cable (in my case 4 wires per 25m) and is bifilar . The pickup coil has 55 turns with around 1mm wire. With this setup the 220V light bulb doesnt lit at all. There is no plasma in pickup coil. Tomorow i'm going to make a longer pickup coil. For now,the output is stable in any position regarding the primary.

One more surprise: the T-K gen is working even without the caps. Maybe the insulation from the wires are acting like one. It lights only the 12V 5W light bulb(not fully lit).I have connected a spark plug from a car engine but just doesnt work. The spark is there but no output. Does anyone know where to connect the ground?

the coil is the cap too, i have tried to explain it early in a previous post.
have you tried to charge a battery?
is your hv transformer direct from 220v or you have a step down transformer?

Hi romero

I wiil try to charge a battery. The HV transformer is direct 220V. Do you think that i should try to connect the ground somewhere?

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 10, 2011, 11:51:54 AM
Hi romero

I wiil try to charge a battery. The HV transformer is direct 220V. Do you think that i should try to connect the ground somewhere?

The ground should be connected to the other  end of the flyback. I am not sure if that is available there as it was built to run with one wire. Check flyback terminals.
Can you tell me the model of your plasma globe? maybe I can find a ground solution for you.
You can also connect the ground to the minus of the diode, use a capacitor in series with the ground wire.
If will charge the battery then make a simple inverter using a 220/12 volt transformer and connect it to the battery to run a load.
If you have a direct load as a 12 bulb that will affect the charging.
I have built and tested the circuit in the link below an it works great. It is good to have it anyway.
When there is no load it consumes almost nothing comparing with other inverters.
http://underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2.0;attach=484;image

There is nothing written on the plasma globe. Not even on the electronic board.
I tooked out the secondary and i wound 33 turns of thicker wire. The output has increased a bit.

If you need a 220/12v transformer, I've got a few of them laying around and depending where you live I could send it to you.

PM me

Cheers Hitman

Quote from: Hitman on December 10, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
If you need a 220/12v transformer, I've got a few of them laying around and depending where you live I could send it to you.

PM me

Cheers Hitman

Thanks Hitman but i have some of these too. Thanks again  :D

As always...i made another video.
From what i've seen, the secondary is not critical in number of turns but the thiker the wire the better.
http://youtu.be/1u3RBCmTzjI
Now i just got to find a way to loop the output; it doesnt work with a transformer. Also the meter goes crazy when i try to measure the input curent.The mosfet from the flyback circuit is not geting hot so i think that the curent sucked is less than 1A.

Allmost no diference between those two 12V 5W light bulbs.

Quote from: mariuscivic on December 11, 2011, 10:57:28 AM
Allmost no diference between those two 12V 5W light bulbs.

Poor man's guide to looping: no special equipment required.

1 Use Romero's circuit to make an inverter, or use your own.
2 Take voltage readings on battery
3 Power EVERYTHING from 12 volt battery via inverter.
4 Use pulsed DC to charge battery
5 After 10 minutes switch off, wait 5 minutes and take voltage reading
6 If volts are up, it's a good indication.
7 Now run the experiment for an extended period of time - say 12 hours and take voltage readings on battery again.
8 Remember that heating and lights on affect the battery readings so try and keep lighting and heating the same throughout the experiment.
9 If it works make a video and start celebrating!
10 DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING AT ALL.
11 Make a complete replication of successful experiment with a second set of equipment.

Good Luck!
:)

Hi a.king!
As usual...there is a problem. If i want to connect anything else on output, the power disappears. I tried to fill a cap but is taking a long time to arive at 12V.(around 10 seconds).
In my last video there is a connection between the battery minus and spark minus.
I tooked out that wire and small cap .
I tooked another 10 meters of wire and connected it(only one end) in the same spot were the small cap was(spark minus).
The other end of the wire was laying around my room without beeing connected.
This gave me allmost the same effect like the small wire + small cap connection.

@ a.king, good post, especially about EVERYTHING at 12v.

BUT, i wouldn't rely on battery readings as perfect proof, have you ever gone to battery university ?

http://batteryuniversity.com/

http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html

http://leadacidbatterydesulfation.yuku.com/

http://www.progressivedyn.com/battery_basics.html

They seem simple but they are definitely not - it's depressing :(

Even taking specific gravity readings (which are more accurate than a volt/amp meter), you cannot be exact.

@ marius, excellent work mate :) How does it respond to different loads ? How about a resistive load that is the same as the input resistance requirement ?

Is your scope and it's probes capable of taking proper integrated power measurements ?

None of the well-educated skeptics will accept anything less than proper power integration calculations using a high-bandwidth scope. And it IS those people we will have to convince if we want to put out plans for a unit that is OU, easily-operable AND passes electric safety standards.

Something that has infuriated me recently, in the video i made of apparently more out than in :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBDOOSOhbz0

Bear in mind i'm an eager-retard in electronics ...

I'm using a DMM to read voltage and an AMM to read current.

I now know that, because i short the output with the ammeter, that's why the DMM reading is zero.

So, not only am i an eager-retard, i'm an eager-retard who misses the completely obvious ... anyway ...

So the DMM reads 430-ish volts, then i put the AMM across the output and i get 13mA.

Not only that, but the load of the resistor in the AMM induces the AUL effect, which speeds up the rotor, increasing the voltage and potentially increasing the amperage if i had a scope to read that ?

There's obviously a lot i don't know and part of that huge body of un-knowledge includes something which can explain this.


Cheers,

DC.

I'm fully aware of the hastle with batteries. It's a good starting point that is all. If you are really ou it will be obvious because your batts will charge up as if on a 10 amp battery charger. Then the fun begins. If you are on the borderline, then even if you are ou it's not worth it. You may as well get a solar panel.  The point is that if you reach ou strongly, Kapanadze style, you can use batteries to normalise voltages and dump the current into the grid via a grid tie inverter. Kapanadze has many tricks including a way to superimpose 50 hz on his output. Just getting that right can take years. So mine is a work around solution. Even magnacoaster dumps his output into 4 deep cycle batteries. I don't think we should get into the downside of batteries. Just get the device to work, and take it from there. The other alternative is expensive true rms meters and a whole lot of gear which could still give you a wrong result. I'm not interested in 1 watt ou. I've had that for a long time. I'm looking for serious power and so I suspect is everyone else. Remember there are people from poor countries also looking to replicate. That's why I call my system a poor man's guide. It's a guide that's all.  The best way to prove ou is to self run without batteries and use a capacitor like Kapanadze. For me the breakthrough is in the coil-foil-capacitor. That is the real revelation. Steinmetz tells us that the dielectric field is at right angles to the electric field. So I've been experimenting with my coil-foil-capacitor, trying to find it's secrets. Yes I agree that batteries can be misleading but I'm waiting for the day the battery meter readings go off the  scale! :) :) :)

This si Tesla secret, Kapanadze secret, Gray ... and many more.
Understanding this simple schematic will get you all there.

Regards,
Romero

 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=ULWdwUA4aIdKI&v=WdwUA4aIdKI

@ a.king, thanks for that, i really have to read up on Kapanadze, i tend to get blinkers on my own project.

Thanks for schematic Romero and thanks for video wings :)


Cheers,

DC.

I have tested lots of coils and configurations recently and from all of them the smallest one, second picture, works the best.

@romero
Can you tell me what you used for extra insulation between the strips of foil if any ?

Cheers Hitman,

PS: still waiting for my new Oscope and signal gen..............

Quote from: Hitman on December 16, 2011, 04:48:35 PM
@romero
Can you tell me what you used for extra insulation between the strips of foil if any ?

Cheers Hitman,

PS: still waiting for my new Oscope and signal gen..............

Hi,
I used plastic foil.The copper foil comes with a paper foil on one side but that is the same dimension with the copper foil and I had to isolate it better or I will get sparks. It works fine for now.
That is not the final design, dielectric used is very important. After some experiments yesterday I found that glass works best and using glass will prevent fire. These capacitor/coils can ignite if not properly isolated. Playing with different frequency I end up transforming all setup into a induction heater, melting the copper wire that goes thru the middle of the coil and the ferrite almost exploded. Very dangerous... I was feeling heat but could not figure out wher is comming from :)
It is also fun playing with different ideas and learning from mistakes. I have a long list of ideas to be tested but I need to work too. Getting closer to Christmas I will have to pause experimenting for a while and spend more time with the family and the kids.

Question for more clever people:
How do we separate particles created by a plasma field, so we can have positive and negative separately? I need it but without diodes, I can do it with diodes but will not last.
I believe that there are materials that will attract positive  charges and other materials that will attract negative ones, aluminium and copper are behaving the same.

Best regards,
Romero

Going out on a limb-

one needed to listen more carefully while watching Sem77 (delamorto) disassembling his unit.

when he finally removes all from the coil and places it on the table, I could swear the sound is like
ceramic tube!

Garry

How do we separate particles created by a plasma field, so we can have positive and negative separately? I need it but without diodes, I can do it with diodes but will not last.
I believe that there are materials that will attract positive  charges and other materials that will attract negative ones, aluminium and copper are behaving the same.

Best regards,
Romero
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just feeling ... use 2 material with different multipactor characteristics and you have 2 different potential due to different electrons emissions

see as example the materials table in this document
http://www.upv.es/satelite/trabajos/Grupo9_99.00/multipac.htm


bismuth and ... aluminium like Schwartz' ERR Fluxgenerator ?
http://www.examiner.com/breakthrough-energy-in-national/update-on-schwartz-err-fluxgenerator

see in this videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFqwY8q-5ZE&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VKHFnkDf54&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

ESA test bismuth as surface treatment in order to reduce Multipactor effect ... soo bismuth have less electron emission
http://esamultimedia.esa.int/conferences/03C26/papers/p009d.pdf

Thank you @Wings , I am already trying different methods.
Below are some scope shots while testing using Ozone as source. I believe it can be dangerous if I breath too much of it. In few seconds it feels the whole room .Source is a 5kv NPS.

Quote from: Romero on December 16, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
Thank you @Wings , I am already trying different methods.
Below are some scope shots while testing using Ozone as source. I believe it can be dangerous if I breath too much of it. In few seconds it feels the whole room .Source is a 5kv NPS.

have you see differences in current like here?
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/images/s_gdpldirbak.jpg

Quote from: Wings on December 16, 2011, 10:08:47 PM

Quote from: Romero on December 16, 2011, 09:56:20 PM
Thank you @Wings , I am already trying different methods.
Below are some scope shots while testing using Ozone as source. I believe it can be dangerous if I breath too much of it. In few seconds it feels the whole room .Source is a 5kv NPS.

have you see differences in current like here?
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/images/s_gdpldirbak.jpg

It is quite difficult right now to compare and do proper measurements. The scope I use is USB connected to PC and it is very sensitive to all these fields. I don't care too much about how much in or out, I know out is many times greater.
All I need now is to understand it better and make it better eliminating the diodes I am curenttly use but if I am not careful will burn quickly, I have already burned lots of them.
I remember in old times I used to fix old tube TV's and the high voltage diode was super strong.
Maybe a home made diode will be better, I need to investigate more.

Romero

RE Plasma fields
Another way is to dump the field to earth. Then  you intercept the dump with a load in series. So the earth side becomes negative and the plasma side becomes positive, the load is powered in between. I believe that's the way Kapanadze did it and also Moray and Donald Smith.

Cheers HH :)

Quote from: a.king21 on December 17, 2011, 09:49:07 PM
RE Plasma fields
Another way is to dump the field to earth. Then  you intercept the dump with a load in series. So the earth side becomes negative and the plasma side becomes positive, the load is powered in between. I believe that's the way Kapanadze did it and also Moray and Donald Smith.

Cheers HH :)

Dumping it at the same frequency will not work, we need to adjust dumping frequency, reduce it at 50Hz or close.
The way I am doing it now works fine for a while but kills the diodes if I have fluctuation in the system.
The ozone has become a problem now, it fills the room very quick and takes hours to disipate. I  feel that is affecting breathing. It will be much better to continue this experiment outside but it is too cold now. I found that increasing the frequency the ozone is not that much but the field effect is still there. I am working to see what is happening if reaction is done in a sealed glass container.
If the field is manipulated at 50 hz then we will get 50 Hz out.
The field is in sync with the coil that is pushing it towards the collector, I can visualize it now, when I apply DC to the coil that surrounds the field I can see the field disturbed, pushed away, If I apply AC the interesting things are happening, the field moves from left to the right and there is where the collector must be placed. This collector is made from 2 sheets, one aluminium and one copper. I believe I have dicovered another way to capture that movement but it needs more investigations. Diodes are a bless and a curse too. I tried today with home made diodes, aluminium + stainless and it works but not good enough, the big advantage is that it will not burn.
Below are pictures with a new model built today.
Has anyone tested a tesla coil or kacher wound on a glass tube? A kacher with 2 transistors and 2 resistors and primary having a tap in the middle of the coil running like a flip flop???? I suggest people should try and look at the scope...

Regards ,
Romero

This is what I am talking about...

Quote from: garrym on December 16, 2011, 07:12:52 PM
Going out on a limb-

one needed to listen more carefully while watching Sem77 (delamorto) disassembling his unit.

when he finally removes all from the coil and places it on the table, I could swear the sound is like
ceramic tube!

Garry

Did you spot that too?

Quote from: garrym on December 18, 2011, 12:28:59 AM

Quote from: garrym on December 16, 2011, 07:12:52 PM
Going out on a limb-

one needed to listen more carefully while watching Sem77 (delamorto) disassembling his unit.

when he finally removes all from the coil and places it on the table, I could swear the sound is like
ceramic tube!

Did you spot that too?

Garry

Hi,
I have not watched that video very careful but I will. I just need to find it now...
About 3 years ago I built 2 identical coils, same wire lenght but one on plastic tube and another on a glass water bottle. The one on glass performed much better also adding water into the bottle will change the output... people should try and see.
It is better to be tested and confirmed independently. the circuit posted before can use for start 1k resistors and 2n3055 transistors. Increaseing the value for the resistors will increase frequency.For better effects use high voltage transistors with high voltage input. Kapanadze said at one time 'use high voltage, not 12 volt' he meant 220volts...
Playing with 12 volts will not help, increasing the voltage will result in better efficiency.
I prefer to use my own made inverter powered from battery instead of the wall socket.

Regards,
Romero

Tesla
Oh, certainly. But I remember that, besides this, I had different kinds of apparatus. Then I had a
sensibly damped wave because at that time I still was laboring under the same difficulties as some
do this day -- I had not learned how to produce a circuit which would give me, with very few
fundamental impulses, a perfectly continuous wave. That came with the perfection of the devices.
When I came to my experiments in Colorado, I could take my apparatus like that and get a
continuous or undamped wave, almost without exception, between individual discharges.

Counsel
Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that
character of circuit?

Tesla
Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course. The advantage of this apparatus was the
delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I
was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time
in the technical papers. I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of
horsepower. In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this
device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.
You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage
because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000
kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave
energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a
quenched gap has become popular.
I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their
momentum. For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute
interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge
the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower. That is how these wonderful effects are
produced. The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because
it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives. There is no limit to the
energy which you can develop with a condenser. There is a limit to the energy which you can
develop with an explosive.A common experiment, for instance, in my laboratory on Houston Street, was to pass through a coil
energy at a rate of several thousand horsepower, put a piece of thick tinfoil on a stick, and approach
it to that coil. The tinfoil would melt, and would not only melt, but while it was still in that form, it
would be evaporated and the whole process took place in so small an interval of time that it was like
a cannon shot. Instantly I put it there, there was an explosion. That was a striking experiment. It
simply showed the power of the condenser, and at that time I was so reckless that in order to
demonstrate to my visitors that my theories were correct, I would stick my head into that coil and I
was not hurt; but, I would not do it now.

A self charging circuit using a flyback transformer and just a few components.
If the circuit is properly understood it can then be implemented in kacher devices or similar.
Driver circuit must stay simple, other circuits and components will work too but attention to L3, you might need more or less turns from 1-5 turns, depending on the transformer used, capacitor and the voltage comming from the AV plug.
After initial tests and proper adjustments you should also be able to remove batteries and replace with capacitors.Don't go directly to try running without batteries, first you need to see battery voltage increased.
Note that initially It might look that battery voltage goes down, please be patient...

Regards ,
Romero

Hi Romero

I am currently testing kacher circuit in tesla coil style.

Would this circuit you posted work in tesla coil style  or it has to be a flyback transformer?

Could you post approximate values of C1 and C2 cap you used?

Best Regards

JoeFR

Quote from: JoeFR on December 21, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
Hi Romero

I am currently testing kacher circuit in tesla coil style.

Would this circuit you posted work in tesla coil style  or it has to be a flyback transformer?

Could you post approximate values of C1 and C2 cap you used?

Best Regards

JoeFR

Hi,

this would work fine in a tesla coil style, that is actually the next step after the one with flyback.
I can tell you what I used for C1=3000pf/30000volts ; C2=150pf/3000volts and a variable capacitor in parallel with C2.
L3 should be from a thicker wire, in your case even one turn should be enough, wound on top of your primary with some distance from the primary windings. One turn only has many advantages that Tesla found and used in his coils.
Please try and don't tell me is not working as I have few friends who replicated it with no problems and minimum tuning.

Success!

Romero

Hi Romero Thanks

I will tried tomorrow on my big tesla coil ( 160mm diameter; 900mm height)  :)

The kacher setup works great with this big tesla coil.

JoeFR

Quote from: JoeFR on December 21, 2011, 09:17:54 PM
Hi Romero Thanks

I will tried tomorrow on my big tesla coil ( 160mm diameter; 900mm height)  :)

The kacher setup works great with this big tesla coil.

JoeFR

just be careful with diodes used for the av plug, I burned so many with my tesla style coil.

Hi Romero

I have 30 pieces of UF5408 (ULTRA FAST 3A/1000V)

and 4 pieces of HVP16 0,75A/16kv

Which of these do you recommend ?

JoeFR

Quote from: JoeFR on December 21, 2011, 09:58:19 PM
Hi Romero

I have 30 pieces of UF5408 (ULTRA FAST 3A/1000V)

and 4 pieces of HVP16 0,75A/16kv

Which of these do you recommend ?

JoeFR

I would use HVP16 0,75A/16kv

Hi Romero

I haven't heard much from you in long time.

I just found this forum of yours.
I've been working on Delamorto replication.

Looks like now it's time to incorporate some of your ideas.

May I join in this forum discussion of yours?

DonL

Quote from: Romero on December 17, 2011, 11:32:02 PM
This is what I am talking about...

Hi guys,
just received my new Oscope today and decided to make a glass coil using a 4 foot neon tube cut to about 12in.

@ romero
just one question, are L1 and L2 wound in the same direction ?

Cheers Hitman.

@dllabarre you are welcome!

@Hitman all coils in the primary same direction but pay attention to the wires comming to them.

This is a diagram to prove the ideea and easy for all to be replicated.
I am working on a diferent one but as I still have problems with it I am not going to post it until I have it working good. This one I posted I tested in different variants, and all worked fine.
Make sure you start with batteries not fully charged...
Check the voltage for each battery before starting, check the total voltage for both in series then start. Leave it running for about 10 minutes, disconect and wait few minutes then check the voltage again.You can reconect if until you got them fully charged.One of the batteries will always be a little bit less charge than the other. It can be done with one battery too but this is the easy way.
Don't leave it running too long as you might overcharge batteries. I will show you later how to connect a load and maintain the battery in normal condition.
I used 1.5 volt batteries, 6 volts and 12 volts, all worked fine.
You can have more batteries in series as you are running just from only one.

Romero

hi all

romero, i  tested your schematic and it works, charged battery from 10.3 to 12.6 in 15 minutes.
i am very happy, this is my first working ou, i need to go now but i will test more later.

Thank you,
David

Quote from: Kaduci on December 22, 2011, 12:49:26 PM
Some interesting things were swim out on the sun light.  Tariel Kapanadze has borrow "his magic generator" from Russian Academy of science !! Some people were bribe and problem was solved !! Funny aaaaa ??

Seems that many leading scientists in Russia have had been payed by own life if their attempt to bring some unlimited ammount of energy to us !! And in USA the same thing had occured !! Funny !! What are you thinking about ??

Hi Kaduci and welcome,

I am not so sure that Kapanadze borrowed the idea from the Russian Academy, maybe russian science papers... as Kapanadze is not english reading or speaking, in the end it does not matter so much, the world needs a different source of energy and the source is not important, we will be greateful to Kapanadze or any other person that can give this free to the people.
People and scientists dying is not funny...

Regards,
Romero

@David
can you upload a video with you device?

Regards,
Romero

@RomeroUK

I have a glass cylinder to use for coil.    7.5cm diameter  30cm length
Is this too large to use?

Do i insulate the glass cylinder before wrapping 700+ turns of magnetic wire on it or put wire directly on glass?

For the capacitor made from copper strip on the top outside and top inside of the glass cylinder - do I put this copper strip over the magnetic wire or leave a space on top of glass cylinder so I can  put the copper strip on the glass?

What is good number of turns of magnetic wire?


Thank you
DonL

Quote from: Romero on December 22, 2011, 01:37:50 PM
@David
can you upload a video with you device?

Regards,
Romero

I don't have anything to record with, sorry.

David

Quote from: dllabarre on December 22, 2011, 04:35:50 PM
@RomeroUK

I have a glass cylinder to use for coil.    7.5cm diameter  30cm length
Is this too large to use?

Do i insulate the glass cylinder before wrapping 700+ turns of magnetic wire on it or put wire directly on glass?

For the capacitor made from copper strip on the top outside and top inside of the glass cylinder - do I put this copper strip over the magnetic wire or leave a space on top of glass cylinder so I can  put the copper strip on the glass?

What is good number of turns of magnetic wire?


Thank you
DonL

Any dimensions will work aslong you will get it to charge C1 and have the spark with minimum input power.
It does not need to be glass tube yet, all you need is to see it working without spending time or money on aditional parts.
If you have a kacher coil already please use it, check that what I said is working then go further.
With the glass tube DO NOT insulate the tube, the best is to have no tube at all but because glass works much better than other materials we will have the windings direct on  the glass tube.
You don't need a capacitor made from copper strip, just a ordinary capacitor will do.
L3 you can have it exactly like in Kapanadze green box, the big copper tube, that is L3.
You can have 5-6 turns and check where it works better while experimenting.
You will selfcharge the batteries even without any capacitor to L3 but if you get L3 tuned then the charge is superfast and then think on how to replace the batteries with capacitors.

In my opinion, in the green box generator the big copper tube is second primary.
This schematic I showed is not the best but it works and I will like to have it confirmed from more people. I have 3 people who confirmed it working, maybe some of you can develop it even further and maybe different approach than me.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on December 22, 2011, 06:11:11 PM
Any dimensions will work aslong you will get it to charge C1 and have the spark with minimum input power.
It does not need to be glass tube yet, all you need is to see it working without spending time or money on aditional parts.
If you have a kacher coil already please use it, check that what I said is working then go further.
With the glass tube DO NOT insulate the tube, the best is to have no tube at all but because glass works much better than other materials we will have the windings direct on  the glass tube.
You don't need a capacitor made from copper strip, just a ordinary capacitor will do.
L3 you can have it exactly like in Kapanadze green box, the big copper tube, that is L3.
You can have 5-6 turns and check where it works better while experimenting.
You will selfcharge the batteries even without any capacitor to L3 but if you get L3 tuned then the charge is superfast and then think on how to replace the batteries with capacitors.

In my opinion, in the green box generator the big copper tube is second primary.
This schematic I showed is not the best but it works and I will like to have it confirmed from more people. I have 3 people who confirmed it working, maybe some of you can develop it even further and maybe different approach than me.

Regards,
Romero

I understand.

Thank you!
DonL

scope shots - today testing...

Just came across these foil inductors!

http://www.erseaudio.com/Products/FoilQCoils

Hi all,
I had a little time to fool around with a few ideas this evening since my signal generator hasen't arrived yet but I came up with something that is really easy to build, I wouldn't say its OU but maybe just does a better job at driving that LED bulb.

I used one of romero's little driver circuits to power a small doorbell transformer connected to a 120VAC 2watt Led light.
I first connected a 12volt DC to 120volt AC inverter with a DDM in series to a 12VDC battery,
Battery with inverter load voltage = 12.76vdc at 105ma. which gives 1.3398watts
Inverter with LED light load Voltage across light = 115.5vac,  Battery voltage = 12.72vdc at 303ma.
Which would translate to 2.514watts that the LED light consumes with the inverter load removed.

Now I connect everything with romero's circuit and transformer then adjust voltage across the led light to 115.5VAC, Battery voltage = 12.68vdc at 165ma. Watts = 2.0922

an extra .4218 watts for free ???

Cheers Hitman

correction C = 5000pf

Quote from: Romero on December 21, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
A self charging circuit using a flyback transformer and just a few components.
If the circuit is properly understood it can then be implemented in kacher devices or similar.
Driver circuit must stay simple, other circuits and components will work too but attention to L3, you might need more or less turns from 1-5 turns, depending on the transformer used, capacitor and the voltage comming from the AV plug.
After initial tests and proper adjustments you should also be able to remove batteries and replace with capacitors.Don't go directly to try running without batteries, first you need to see battery voltage increased.
Note that initially It might look that battery voltage goes down, please be patient...

Regards ,
Romero

please can you post pictures of this working device  :)

Quote from: Wings on December 23, 2011, 08:01:20 AM

Quote from: Romero on December 21, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
A self charging circuit using a flyback transformer and just a few components.
If the circuit is properly understood it can then be implemented in kacher devices or similar.
Driver circuit must stay simple, other circuits and components will work too but attention to L3, you might need more or less turns from 1-5 turns, depending on the transformer used, capacitor and the voltage comming from the AV plug.
After initial tests and proper adjustments you should also be able to remove batteries and replace with capacitors.Don't go directly to try running without batteries, first you need to see battery voltage increased.
Note that initially It might look that battery voltage goes down, please be patient...

Regards ,
Romero

please can you post pictures of this working device  :)

I will post a picture later as I am not home now.

Hello Romero,

I am new here and your flyback-self-charging-circuit came to my attention while I was reading the Kapanadze-thread in Stefans overunity- forum.
I have to express my gratitude to your information and your open and sincere
presentation here. This is why I felt myself obliged to register here .

The following is a presentation of certain facts not teached in context with condensor-energy at universities - although well known otherwise - which might give you some ideas concerning the function of a special condensor which can be used in your circuit :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-jWfzkz_E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB-jWfzkz_E)

I have to admitt that I was stunned myself about this. If you want to know more about the term self-energy, see here:   first paragraph, second sentence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-energy)

A leyden-condensor can be build easier this way.

Now you will get a better understanding why spheres of different diameter might be useful at the Top of "communicating" Tesla-Coils, like in this setup:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_20.htm#Teslas%20Thoughts%20on%20Ball%20Lightning%20Production (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_20.htm#Teslas%20Thoughts%20on%20Ball%20Lightning%20Production)

Where is the seat of energy in a leyden-jar ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg)

The key-point we are dealing here with is the kinetic energy of electrons caused by the lateral pressure of electrons ( coulomb force ) which only can be catched via a rapid discharge-process and which gets lost if it is directed into a ohmic resistor.

Now things get a bit more clear now and from then on it is more an engineering-task than fiddling around with strange ideas like "radiant energy" etc.

Concerning wesley?s setup I will come forward later on with some suprising relationships between well known physical wave-structures of different kind, which will open a new chapter in engineering.

A good start for the new upcoming year.. is?nt it ?

Regards

eagle

@eagle
Thank you for the info posted, very interesting - the leyden-jar experiment I've done too some time ago after seing the same video you posted.

Regards,
Romero

@Romero
The Flyback should have its standard air gap?
You know turn number of your HV-Coil?

Thanks

To all..

Here are few of the devices I am playing with using that schematic posted few days back and some interesting scope shots.
Any flyback or high voltage coil will work.
The Flyback with internal diode we can use too, without AV Plug, conected in normal fashion and negative to the ground.
Don't ask me about number of turns, it works in almost any conditions, don't expect to have hundred of watts from it, all you need is to see is lets's say start from 2 batteries in series and the total starting voltage is 20volts and after few minutes you have 24volts.
This is to prove that the schematic works and can selfcharge the running batteries.
If you are looking for lots of power then this is not the schematic you are looking for and you might need to search somewhere else.
I am working to extend and get more power but at the moment I am burning components just by moving my position on the chair... this works in cycles, I see it like a rotational field that when at maximum speed will not see the load...

Romero

Quote from: Romero on December 23, 2011, 05:22:34 PM
@eagle
Thank you for the info posted, very interesting - the leyden-jar experiment I've done too some time ago after seing the same video you posted.

Regards,
Romero

ok, now if you apply what Eue Jin Jeong has shown ( asymetric capacitor) to a Leyden jar then this should give a boost.

Regards

eagle

Thanks @romero for the forum. Hope to replicate the circuit soon. Family & xmas are demanding attention atm :) Are your resistors just metallic film?

@romero
I put together a replication of your schematic but using a coil wound on a glass tube, results were a bit disappointing but I will try with a HV transformer as soon as xmass is past. scope shots were not even worth taking. 

Heres a couple of pics of my setup and a pic of the hv transformer I plan to use.

Cheers Hitman

PS: Merry Xmass and a happy New Year all.

Quote from: jimboot on December 24, 2011, 02:08:30 AM
Thanks @romero for the forum. Hope to replicate the circuit soon. Family & xmas are demanding attention atm :) Are your resistors just metallic film?

Hi,
yes, the resistors are just metalic film.



The schematic I shown is for the flyback transformer for the air core tube you need to modify it or even use a standard kacher circuit. As I said before, you need to be able to charge fast C1 and have a spark, no charge-no spark then = nothing .
For my existing air core setup i am using the circuit below. This circuit can be used for many applications, it is very reliable and strong. I have used it for my induction heater too and works very good. Thic circuit melted my copper wire inside ferite tube... the capacitor 0.68uf is very important, change the value of it to change frequency.

Romero

Thank you, Romero, for posting the "simple OU self-charger".

I am trying to take the step by step approach you recommend, using two 12 V-batteries and a D13009K transistor
http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/410821/JSMC/3DD13009K-O-C-N-B.html
from an old PC power supply.
But I instantly ran into a problem because the flyback-transformer(s) I have available, all have the internal diode.
Luckily you addressed this problem:

Quote from: Romero on December 23, 2011, 11:22:51 PMThe flyback with internal diode we can use too, without AV Plug, connected in normal fashion and negative to the ground.

But I don't understand.
I eliminated the AV-plug and now have only 1 diode (the flyback's internal one).
I have put everything together as in my schematic (see below). The flyback's original HV-cable is going towards the spark gap. Is that correct?

And also I am not sure, what to do with C1 - if I have attached it correctly?
I guess the way I am doing it (as in my schematic)  is not correct, as the minus-pole of the left battery is now only connected to the circuit via C1?

I would be grateful if you could give me some advice.

Edit: I saw Romero's response with the correct schematic. Thanks. So I deleted the wrong schematic I had originally posted here.
Will test more and let you know.

@member77
this is how you need to connect it if you have internal diode. You can also add a capacitor between the coil and ground cable.
Success!

Merry Christmas everyone!

Romero

Merry Christmas  All the best everyone and a happy and safe new year.  I hope everyone is safe and happy for Christmas with their families as that is the most important thing in the world. Best wishes Ron from aussie ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :) :) :) :) :)

Hi all members of this great forum

Merry Christmas to all  :)

JoeFR

In the picture below we cannot see any ground wire while the device is in operation.

Merry Christmas to all of you!
and
Happy New Year.

DonL

Thank your Romero, for providing a circuit diagram for the self-charger, applicable for a flyback transformer with internal diode.
I started to modify my setup to implement this.

I can not make any definite statements about charging, yet, because I can only run it for about half a minute, because the transistor gets quite hot.
I will have to find a remedy for that.

However, I get a very strong white "spark" across the spark gap. Actually it is more like a white arc. There is also a strong smell of ozone, just as Romero describes.
When I disconnect C1, only a feeble blue streamer remains across the spark gap.

When connecting an analog Volt-meter across the batteries, I can see that the Voltage rises from 24 V (setup not running) to approx. 30 V while the setup is running. This is surely unusual. This measurement only works with an analog meter. My cheap digital meter goes crazy when I connect it to the battery terminals while the circuit is in operation.

@All
Member Collapsingfield inspired me:
instead of an industrially manufactured HV-cap for C1 I am using 2 to 3 meters of antenna cable (coaxial cable). I connect the cable's core as one electrode and the shield/braid as the other. The back-end of the cable (core and shield) are left non-connected. I am very pleased with this.

Hi all

I made two short videos from testing kacher setup.

Charging CAP 680uF 200V AV Plug:


Ligh Bulb 220V 25W:


I will try Romero self charging circuit now and post the results.

JoeFR

Hi JoeFR,

thanks for posting your videos.
I have two questions:
#1) Please what is the purpose of the switch in the schematic?
Just to initially start oscillations in the circuit?

#2) when you change the load from AV-plug and cap to the bulb, does this make retuning of the device necessary? Or can you simply disconnect the AV-plug and cap and attach the bulb in their place?

BTW: It is interesting that the current that lights the bulb, can not be measured with an AMP-meter.

Hi member77

#1) Please what is the purpose of the switch in the schematic?
It is a push button
Just to initially start oscillations in the circuit?
Yes I just press it for the moment for the oscillations to start

#2) when you change the load from AV-plug and cap to the bulb, does this make retuning of the device necessary?
No
Or can you simply disconnect the AV-plug and cap and attach the bulb in their place?
Yes I can disconnect AV-plug and connect the bulb instead. When circuit is started it is very hard to stop it ( only if you have low voltage in battery )

BTW: It is interesting that the current that lights the bulb, can not be measured with an AMP-meter.
In my opinion is HF current so DC meter is not able to show it. The secondary coil operates between 120 - 145 khz.

JoeFR

Hi guys ; I don,t know if you are familiarized with Zilano replication of don smith work  .He claiming an 10 kw workable unit made by him....He gave to people from energetic forum  allot of details about his device .Here is the thread ...
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-67.html

Unfortunately ,after a while he deleted his posts because some guys made fun of it and he disliked that .Fortunately I saved most of Zilano postings and pictures...

Here is :http://www.mediafire.com/?loltrdr54jtur7t
Zilano pictures
http://www.mediafire.com/?7n9nnmxwbx1ck9h

Here is one of the zilano,s free energy design with self powering flyback coil circuit ,which  I found very similar with romero schematic posted at page 9 at this thread
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg23/scaled.php?server=23&filename=zilanocircuit.gif&res=medium)

below  is one of the zilano sugestion regarding caduceus coil design

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg94/scaled.php?server=94&filename=kapanadzecaduceusseries.jpg&res=medium)

zilano never produced any proof of a working device.  No picture. No video. No measurements.

DonL

QuoteHi member77

#1) Please what is the purpose of the switch in the schematic?
It is a push button
Just to initially start oscillations in the circuit?
Yes I just press it for the moment for the oscillations to start

Hi JoeFr,

the switch is for initialising the oscillation. After start of oscillation the base-resistor is not needed any longer. By this the current-draw is reduced.

Regards

eagle

uhps,

my last post was an answer to member77 not JoFr the originator of the circuit in question.

eagle

I don't want to dampen your enthusiasm but you have to be careful taking battery readings.
Readings taken during the experiment are not reliable as meters are not designed for high frequency and high voltages.
Please follow Romero's instructions in this regard. Wait at least 5 minutes after the experiment to take readings and THEN compare to start readings. Also make sure the circuit is completely switched off. Even better, put a load on your battery after the experiment to ensure it is not "fluffy" voltage.
If after this you have voltage gain then it is a good indication of OU, and further tests need to be carried out. :)

Thanks for this Joe. I've been trying to adapt my kacher to Romero's setup.  I would not have thought to have the AV plug off the emitter. I was going to connect to the free end of the primary. Nice vids.

My Caduceus coil.

I wound it like Romero:
  first: wound 2 wires side by side.
  Second: removed one wire and rewound it in opposite direction with crossovers

50 turns each wire
14 AWG stranded

Inductance:
  Red (bottom) wire 6.7uH
  Green (over top) wire 8.0uH
  Total (wires connected) 27.4uH

Form:
  2.5 cm outside diameter
  40 cm long
  30 cm used for wire winding

DonL

Regarding this picture is not clear for me the groundig of the L4 coil is a true grounding ( earth grounding)? Have no connection with any of that  2 batteries?

(http://underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=121.0;attach=520)

Quote from: sinergicus on December 27, 2011, 09:52:46 AM
Regarding this picture is not clear for me the groundig of the L4 coil is a true grounding ( earth grounding)? Have no connection with any of that  2 batteries?

(http://underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=121.0;attach=520)

earth grounding and nothing else

HI RomeoUK and others!

It is good to see you on same boat I went through. :)

RomeoUK, if you swap batteries to capacitors in your setuo, you should definitely see if they are self charging to high voltage what you get from secondary coil. Just keep in mind with battery, when you feed back high voltage impulses, your battery would explode like in Bedini case.

Also about Caduceus coil - It reminds our experiments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmJg1Kmbgk4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jbUA6_10c

Good luck to everyone with great supporting experiments you are doing!

Quote from: T-1000 on December 27, 2011, 01:57:27 PM
HI RomeoUK and others!

It is good to see you on same boat I went through. :)

RomeoUK, if you swap batteries to capacitors in your setuo, you should definitely see if they are self charging to high voltage what you get from secondary coil. Just keep in mind with battery, when you feed back high voltage impulses, your battery would explode like in Bedini case.

Also about Caduceus coil - It reminds our experiments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmJg1Kmbgk4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7jbUA6_10c

Good luck to everyone with great supporting experiments you are doing!

Hi and welcome,

This schematic is to prove that the selfcharge is working and with minimum components.
I don't give a chance to the batteries to explode and I am controlling the charge level. I am applying my last experiments in a better setup now.
I would advise everyone not to replicate Tesla schematic capturing energy from air/ozone or if you do it then not inside a room, that has lots of disadvantages especially health is very quick  affected, tested and now after many days since that experiment I still feel bad.
There is always a risk but at least the risk we know we should avoid if we can.
Caduceus we should use mainly because of no bemf from that type of coil. It can be done without caduceus having the coils like in a patent i posted before. http://underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5.0;attach=477
This type of coil was used in the Green box Kapanadze, one coil at one end the other at the other end and the big copper coil is the second primary or L3 from the previous schematic.


Success everyone!
Romero

Quote from: T-1000 on December 27, 2011, 01:57:27 PM
RomeoUK, if you swap batteries to capacitors in your setuo, you should definitely see if they are self charging to high voltage what you get from secondary coil. Just keep in mind with battery, when you feed back high voltage impulses, your battery would explode like in Bedini case.

Since the output is looped to the input, the cap voltage would continue to increase geometrically unless there is a variable impedance load. The advantage of the battery is that it can take a significant amount of extra energy without a significant change in voltage, thereby maintaining stable operation...for a while at least. If you manage to get extra energy and route it back into the caps that drive the primary, better provide some mechanism for dumping the extra energy in to a load or you will blow it up...quickly.

Hello Romero,

just one  question left: which transistor do you use in the "self-charging circuit".
I like to avoid burning semicoductors by trial & error - methode. I have a variety of transistors at my exposal, currently  using a 2SD718, 120 V.
Did you notice a strong voltage-spike during switch-off-cycle in L2 ? Transistor with build-in protector-diode needed ?

http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/WINGS/2SD718.pdf (http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/WINGS/2SD718.pdf)

Regards

Quote from: eagle on December 27, 2011, 09:05:27 PM
Hello Romero,

just one  question left: which transistor do you use in the "self-charging circuit".
I like to avoid burning semicoductors by trial & error - methode. I have a variety of transistors at my exposal, currently  using a 2SD718, 120 V.
Did you notice a strong voltage-spike during switch-off-cycle in L2 ? Transistor with build-in protector-diode needed ?

http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/WINGS/2SD718.pdf (http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/WINGS/2SD718.pdf)

Regards

I have tested different transistors, 2n3055, mje13007and all worked ok with small differences. Just to test and confirm the ideea any of them will be good.
I have not burned any transistors yet, I know that I should have a sync and chose the right time when the spark occurs to L3 but it works anyway without any protection so far but I was not using big coils. The next model I am working on should have a sync for all operations in the circuit.

Regards,
Romero

Hi JoeFR,
thanks for answering my questions.

Quote from: member77 on December 26, 2011, 06:29:14 AM
BTW: It is interesting that the current that lights the bulb, can not be measured with an AMP-meter.

Quote from: JoeFR on December 26, 2011, 07:37:08 AM
In my opinion is HF current so DC meter is not able to show it. The secondary coil operates between 120 - 145 khz.

This is an interesting aspect. But as far as I understand, the frequency of the oscillations (of the current and the voltage) is the same at all points in the circuit. So the frequency of the current in the supply line (between battery and Collector), is the same as the frequency of the current at the light bulb, I think. Obviously one would need an oscilloscope to verify this.

Do you think the frequency in the supply line (where the big Amp-meter measures ca. 1 A) is different from the frequency at the load, where the milliAmp-meter is used?

Hello all,

this here is good stuff:
http://www.myelectricengine.com/index.html (http://www.myelectricengine.com/index.html)

Multi-Spark-Gap ( very professional ): Fig. 10
http://www.myelectricengine.com/projects/mpdthruster/ignition/ignition.html (http://www.myelectricengine.com/projects/mpdthruster/ignition/ignition.html)

Regards
eagle

Hi all

I posted some day ago a video of kacher setup lighting a 220V 25W light bulb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRPGgz0nEd4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRPGgz0nEd4)
The circuit consumes 12,5V X 2,2A = 27 - 28Wats

Today I put in series between earth ground and light bulb 1 ohm resistor and put scope probe across resistor. I put another probe between earth ground and light bulb ( negative pole of the 12V battery )

Here are the scope shots. Can somebody help mi calculate the output power across light bulb?
The red color is scope probe across resistor
The yellow color is scope probe across light bulb

JoeFR

Hello JoFr,

I did a quick estimate, assuming a sinus-signal. The distortion of the waveform however makes it impossible to calculate correct numbers. You should measure the brightness and compare it to the same brightness created by a dc-current.

Here is my rough estimation:

Voltage-Peak is 220 ( half of the full sinus Uss of 440 V) Urms = 220 x 0,707 = 155 V
Voltage-Drop across 1 Ohm seems to b 0.15 V ( half of the ful sinus Uss ), that means
Urms across the 1 Ohm  = 0.707 x 0.155 = 0,101 V. Irmx = U/R = 0,1 A
Power rms = U x I = 15,655 Watt

Regards
eagle

Thanks Eagle

Today I finally made working ( with gyula help ) kacher with mosfet instead of the transistor. I killed at least six mosfet drivers TC4422  >:( but now mosfet kacher circuit works OK.
It has very strong output because it uses 4Amps if driven from 12v battery. You can use any N-channel mosfet rated for at least 100Volts. You need to use heat sink on voltage regulator and mosfet.

Here is the schematic and scope shot ( red PIN 2 of driver, yellow Drain mosfet ):

JoeFR

Thank you JoeFR and Gyula, very useful.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: JoeFR on December 29, 2011, 05:52:27 PM
Thanks Eagle

Today I finally made working ( with gyula help ) kacher with mosfet instead of the transistor. I killed at least six mosfet drivers TC4422  >:( but now mosfet kacher circuit works OK.
It has very strong output because it uses 4Amps if driven from 12v battery. You can use any N-channel mosfet rated for at least 100Volts. You need to use heat sink on voltage regulator and mosfet.

Here is the schematic and scope shot ( red PIN 2 of driver, yellow Drain mosfet ):

JoeFR

Nice schematic.

Couple questions for clarification.
Is L1 & L2 wound on L3?
How many turns and wire size are L2 & L3?   (estimate if you don't have a count)

Thank you,
DonL

Hi JoeFr,

please some questions:

1) see attachend pic the red frame-areas. It is a very unusual way of drawing a wire crossing through a capacitor. I assume it is not a lead-through-cap as it is used in hf-applications where you lead the hf through the metal casing. Can you  please clarify.

2) What is the number of turns of L2 and how is it attached to L3 ?

3) Did you find out what the reason was that you destroyed so many drivers ?

Regards

eagle

Hi all again  :)

L1 is air core coil from 1,5mm - 2,0mm diameter wire 15turns

L2 is tesla coil primary 4 turns 8AWG wire ( this is my case you can try different size and turns )

L3 is tesla coil secondary 2500 turns 26AWG wire ( this is my case you can try different with less turns )

1) see attachend pic the red frame-areas. It is a very unusual way of drawing a wire crossing through a capacitor. I assume it is not a lead-through-cap as it is used in hf-applications where you lead the hf through the metal casing. Can you  please clarify.
No it is not lead trought capacitor. I just draw it this way, because the caps C2 and C3 must be connected as close as possible to mosfet driver TC4422 chip.

2) What is the number of turns of L2 and how is it attached to L3 ?
Look the attached pictures

3) Did you find out what the reason was that you destroyed so many drivers ?
In original russian circuit http://teslacoil.ru/devices/pravilnyiy-kacher/ is used IXDD414 mosfet driver. This driver can have supply voltage of 40V. The TC4422 driver can go only to 18V. I think the problem was that the spikes were killing the driver. So with additional C2 and C3 caps and voltage regulator the problem is solved.

Here are the pictures for better understanding:

JoeFR

Hi Romero,

can you give me some number of your current-draw in primary for comparison ?
In my setup with 12 V and no puls-feed from sparkgap via L3 back into the positve terminal of the battery - just firing the spark-gap across the cap C1, current-draw is 2 A.

Thank you
Eagle

Quote from: eagle on December 30, 2011, 02:15:55 AM
Hi Romero,

can you give me some number of your current-draw in primary for comparison ?
In my setup with 12 V and no puls-feed from sparkgap via L3 back into the positve terminal of the battery - just firing the spark-gap across the cap C1, current-draw is 2 A.

Thank you
Eagle

Just fireing the spark gap I am running under one amp. Something is not right there, do you know your running frequency? Increase the number of turns for L2, make it 5 turns and check.What diameter is the wire for L2? You can also use a julethief circuit to drive it and use a variable resistor to adjust frequency. I have one of my flyback transformers that will not run properly with this circuit and I used a 555 to drive a mosfet then it worked very efficient. Any circuit can be used, L3 and C2 is the key to have it run in OU mode, all the other parts are not so critical.

Romero

Hi Romereo

I use a different flyback, similar to this one here:
http://www.powerlabs.org/flybackdriver.htm (http://www.powerlabs.org/flybackdriver.htm)

If I look at IMG_1740.jpg on page 11 I wonder what kind of a transformer this is ( the one with the yellow pasted lable ). it looks to my like a transformer used in switched power-supplies or a copy-machine.

HV-coil of my flyback is 190 Ohm and will not get higher than 2000 Volt. These type of transformers were used in conjuncion with doubler or tripler-stages.

In the above website current draw at 26 Volt is about 4.5 Amp.
He also has 5 winding as L2 and two for L1

Quotehat diameter is the wire for L2?

wire-diameter is 1 mm.

QuoteI have one of my flyback transformers that will not run properly with this circuit and I used a 555 to drive a mosfet then it worked very efficient.

So how then is the arrangement of L3-C2 ?

Anyway it is a lot of experimenting. Yes I will do what you suggested and increase windings of L2
and change transistor.

Regards

eagle

@eagle
The picture IMG_1740.jpg on page 11 shows a high voltage transformer recovered from big TFT TV, used to power the neon tubes inside the screen. I've got 4 of them from one TV. These can be found in TFT monitors, I have friends at the local electrical recycle centre and they will get anything for me for just few beers...
I had to redo the primary and it works very good for small experiments where we need to test things without getting big shock if we touch it by mistake...
I do have normal flyback transformers and car ignition coil with primary separated from the secondary, not having one wire connected to primary as most of them do.

Romero

Quote from: Romero on December 30, 2011, 01:28:44 PM
@eagle
The picture IMG_1740.jpg on page 11 shows a high voltage transformer recovered from big TFT TV, used to power the neon tubes inside the screen. I've got 4 of them from one TV. These can be found in TFT monitors, I have friends at the local electrical recycle centre and they will get anything for me for just few beers...
I had to redo the primary and it works very good for small experiments where we need to test things without getting big shock if we touch it by mistake...
I do have normal flyback transformers and car ignition coil with primary separated from the secondary, not having one wire connected to primary as most of them do.

Romero

@romereo,

aha, you do what I do on a regular basis. A few times a week I go to our local dump ( all sort of metal- electronic- and household-scrap are brought here ) and "secure" whatever I find. At one occasion I found about 15 Flybacks of different kind - one of which I use in my setup. Please see attached pic.
The HV-Secondary ?Wire is 0,25 mm in diameter, so this might explain the high current-draw.
Good to know about these little transformer in TFT will keep an eye on it if I go to the dump.
The core-material of these little neon-trafos is much better that these old-fashioned flyback-iron-powder-cores.

Regards

eagle

@Kaduci: although I appreciate your postings related to russian developments .- it is rather disturbing and distracting from the self-chager-topic here. It is also a strain for the other members here to sort things out as the same situation can be experienced in the Kapanadze-discussion in stefan hartmanns forum.
We also can not follow these dicsussions because of the language-barrier ( online-translators falsify the content in such a way that it is useless.
Will you be so kind and stick to the topic and ask the moderator to open a thread "Russian developments based on Tesla techiques" and move all this to this area ? Thank you for your understanding.

I've tried to adapt the Romero circuit to my Kacher but I'm not having a lot of joy, mainly because I don't know what I'm doing :) Anyway, I'm not sure why the lamp is glowing in the vid below. A couple of things I've learned. When I try the AV plug off the emitter like JoeFR does I can successfully charge a 450v 220uf cap. However I cannot get a spark, which is why in this vid I'm coming off the main coil that would usually be open. However the lamp will still light when the emitter is connected to the AV plug and no spark gap. Any feedback appreciated. It does my head in :)

@jimboot

At 220uF, your cap is much, much too big and is swallowing the input energy. Romero's cap was 3000pF.

Quote from: LtBolo on December 31, 2011, 03:43:16 AM
@jimboot

At 220uF, your cap is much, much too big and is swallowing the input energy. Romero's cap was 3000pF.

Thanks LT, I will try a smaller one with the AV plug. I was trying to copy JoeFR as closely as possible with his kacher setup.

@jimboot
use a small capacitor in pF range, forget about large capacitors.
Another important thing is to use many smaller capacitors to get the value you want.
One important example: In Free Energy devices one 100uf capacitor is not the same with 10 times 10uf capacitors in parallel, always more capacitors used will get you more energy than only one with the same value.
Many capacitors  can be substituted with a large surface capacitor...

Regards,
Romero

Hi all

I was playing today with mosfet kacher. I managed to lower consumption to between 2-2.5 Amp which is the same as consumption with original kacher with transistor.
The output is very strong so be very careful because the ozone production is very strong.
I managed to lower consumption with different L1 coil. I can now slide in ferrite core and tune for best performance.

Here is the updated schematic and picture of the finished driver:

JoeFR

Quote from: Romero on December 31, 2011, 01:19:26 PM
@jimboot
use a small capacitor in pF range, forget about large capacitors.
Another important thing is to use many smaller capacitors to get the value you want.
One important example: In Free Energy devices one 100uf capacitor is not the same with 10 times 10uf capacitors in parallel, always more capacitors used will get you more energy than only one with the same value.
Many capacitors  can be substituted with a large surface capacitor...

Regards,
Romero

Thanks Romero. I was only using a large one on the AV plug before the spark gap. I thought I needed it polarised. Trying smaller caps today.

Happy New Year!!!!
***** 2012 *****

The year free energy devices become popular!

Hi all

Here I found pdf document how to make your own air core coils.
I hope it helps

JoeFR

Happy NY 2012!

Happy New Year to everyone!!!!

Hopefully this year will be year in change of energy we tap into and use!


For those who are stubborn and keen to achieve same experimental results Nicola Tesla had, here is food for thoughts:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXvMpw84sIM#t=6m40s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6cFNBAjJLU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlGrsoTD-bw#t=2m50s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx39hwTGphY (and on 2:17 3rd diagram is trumpet and very important!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHUPj9Zh5c#t=8m00s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuil65sLPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4xEQwwVss0

For those who make Tesla coils, here are 4 very important steps to follow:
#1 Primary coil mass = secondary coil mass for electrostatic resonance
#2 Primary coil length is 1/4 of secondary coil length (we used 1/5 + tuning cap with Caduceus coil)
#3 Primary coil length has lowest impedance and inductance as possible. That dictates the length of secondary coil and the secondary coil is 1/4 of resonant wave length.
#4 you do not need Earth ground if you use center tapped secondary coil with CW and CCW windings from there.

Good luck!

Quote from: Romero on December 21, 2011, 04:13:25 PM
A self charging circuit using a flyback transformer and just a few components.
If the circuit is properly understood it can then be implemented in kacher devices or similar.
Driver circuit must stay simple, other circuits and components will work too but attention to L3, you might need more or less turns from 1-5 turns, depending on the transformer used, capacitor and the voltage comming from the AV plug.
After initial tests and proper adjustments you should also be able to remove batteries and replace with capacitors.Don't go directly to try running without batteries, first you need to see battery voltage increased.
Note that initially It might look that battery voltage goes down, please be patient...
Romero

Hi Romereo,

I tried to replicate and tested almost any configuration without any success. The feedback-coil L3 was changed between 2 and 5 windings, caps C2 changed from 150 pf up in steps to 200 nF. Result is always the same:  draining the right battery, the left is unchanged. The I reversed the polarity of L3, no succes either.
Any increase of energy which sould enter the system must pump up C2-L3 faster and therefore cause increase output of high-voltage-coil. If this would happen C1 would be charged up faster but the decreasing trumpet-condensor-loading-shape of the oscillation will not change, only the rate of discharge into the gap will increase because of the faster charge-up of C1. So I do not know what the pictures of your post #141 represent.
So I learned a lot about the Koenig mirror-coil-technique which I applied here but nothing about a energy-gain causing the batteries to self-charge.
There is one option left I will test

Regards
eagle

@eagle
could you post few pictures with your setup or a video? I need to see it before I can help you. The battery on the left should charge more than the one on the right and you should see that instantly.
What is the amp draw ?


Romero

Hello Romero,

amp-draw is now about 1,5 A at 11 V. Today  I changed L3, increased inductance mainly achieved by iron-wire showed some change in the trumpet-waveform with C2 = 400 pf. Also I reduced sparkgap-distance to 0,5 to 1 mm so repitition-rate of discharge has increased.
Now I will follow this route because it seems there is a relation between L2 / L3 which is of significance, meaning that the spark-gap driven L3-C2 tank is mainly driving the flyback overriding the driving-function of the transistor.
Will post changed setup and waveform later.

What is your spargap-distance and the discharge-repitition-rate ?

Regards

eagle

Quote from: eagle on January 12, 2012, 01:18:32 AM
Hello Romero,

amp-draw is now about 1,5 A at 11 V. Today  I changed L3, increased inductance mainly achieved by iron-wire showed some change in the trumpet-waveform with C2 = 400 pf. Also I reduced sparkgap-distance to 0,5 to 1 mm so repitition-rate of discharge has increased.
Now I will follow this route because it seems there is a relation between L2 / L3 which is of significance, meaning that the spark-gap driven L3-C2 tank is mainly driving the flyback overriding the driving-function of the transistor.
Will post changed setup and waveform later.

What is your spargap-distance and the discharge-repitition-rate ?

Regards

eagle

I have about 1mm spark gap in the home made one and about 2mm in a tube spark gap. I recently bought few more tube spark gaps, one of them has a white powder inside, anyone has any ideea what is the purpose of that powder?

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I have about 1mm spark gap in the home made one and about 2mm in a tube spark gap. I recently bought few more tube spark gaps, one of them has a white powder inside, anyone has any ideea what is the purpose of that powder?
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Hi Romero,

I found this website here : http://frank.pocnet.net/ (http://frank.pocnet.net/). He has listed the GD2v in an excel-sheet here: frank.pocnet.net/other/type-mfr-descr/type-mfr-descr.xls (http://frank.pocnet.net/other/type-mfr-descr/type-mfr-descr.xls)

Maybe he knows what this powder is. My guess is that it is some mineral which enhances the plasma thus stabelizing the discharge

Regards
eagle

@romero

not much info about the powder but some data whichmight be important:
http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/022/g/GD2V.pdf (http://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/022/g/GD2V.pdf)

eagle

Hi Romereo,

pics of the first test. Second with iron-windings was much better, but still no ascending trumpet-waveform.
Asymetric sparkgap is meant for further developments in conjunction with an asymetirc hv-capacitor

Regards
eagle

uhps,

pics too big ! what?s the size which fits here ?

eagle

Quote from: eagle on January 12, 2012, 11:31:27 PM
Hi Romereo,

pics of the first test. Second with iron-windings was much better, but still no ascending trumpet-waveform.
Asymetric sparkgap is meant for further developments in conjunction with an asymetirc hv-capacitor

Regards
eagle

I am getting the  trumpet-waveform even without L3 in place, actually some of the pictures posted before are before adding L3 to the circuit. If the flyback is properly tuned you can get it anyway but L3 is amplifying it. Most of the people are looking for a perfect sine at the output, showing resonance.. that is good but not enough. The waveform expands and the amplitude goes up in relation with the duration of the pulse.
Below are pictures with waveforms direct from the hv transformer.
Last picture from a solid state experiment with no spark gaps.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: eagle on January 12, 2012, 11:33:04 PM
uhps,

pics too big ! what?s the size which fits here ?

eagle

I don't remember sure but I think I set it to 500k
save it as a jpeg

Kapanadze - More Pictures

Hi Romero,

if I read your comment, I get the impression that my hv-condenser ( 1.5 nf)  is loaded too fast.
It has an output-voltage of 3 KV whereas your small transformer can only be 1200 - 1500 V maximum.
This data including your sparkgap-width of 1 mm is incosnistant as 3000 V is needed to jump the 1 mm sparkgap.

I need more precise data as there are:

1) Capacitance of your batteries ( Ah) used, type of battery ( dry or wet lead-cell, NiCd ?? )
    Mine are 25 Ah each, big mass which causes a big stray-capacitance thus forming a series tank
    with L3
2) discharge-rate of sparkgap
3) Transformer : how many neons was it build for ? 1 or 2 neons ?

A neon usually does not need more that 5 Watt max, so for two neons 10 W. My flyback can output up to 80 Watt.
All these little things are important. There are too many parameters involved some of which might
be relevant but which ?

Flyback properly tuned? What do you mean by this ?

The only paramters I can tune :

HV-Caps, L3 ( which you say it is not a must ) and sparkgap-distance.
The transistor in this circuit is self-tuning.

When I switch the power on I can watch  at my scope within a time-frame of 5 seconds that the wave is self-adjusting. It visually locks or better snaps into a stable state, regardless of different paramters set before.

So I ask: is there anybody here who has a setup using the kind of flyback I have here at test ?

Regards
eagle

@eagle
I will do a video this weekend with a similar flyback like yours, that will be more helpful for you.
The small one is rated 1200v and used to drive 2 tubes, discharge-rate of sparkgap you can see frequency in the pictures posted.
I had this test with different types of flyback transformers, even with a car ignition coil but that did not generate the trumpet waveform.

Hi Romereo,

while testing today with bigger L3 ( iron-wire, 8 turns, normal wound, no mirror-Koenig-winding) the
base-emitter-diode was killed. It must have happened when I shut the power off. The resulting last-cycle-firing of the sparkgap hit so hard, B-E now is burned down to 300 Ohm in both directions. So there will be a delay of 2 days before I can continue with testing and if I do there will be a different situation as I am forced to use another transistor. I only had two of these and both got grilled.

Regards

eagle

Quote from: eagle on January 13, 2012, 10:04:56 PM
Hi Romereo,

while testing today with bigger L3 ( iron-wire, 8 turns, normal wound, no mirror-Koenig-winding) the
base-emitter-diode was killed. It must have happened when I shut the power off. The resulting last-cycle-firing of the sparkgap hit so hard, B-E now is burned down to 300 Ohm in both directions. So there will be a delay of 2 days before I can continue with testing and if I do there will be a different situation as I am forced to use another transistor. I only had two of these and both got grilled.

Regards

eagle

I burnet so many components during these experiments that I could have a nice holliday in an exotic place if I could get the money spent on them.
I will try to make a video  for you probably Sunday if I will have enough time ... we have a family party...

Romero

Another video with Kapanadze in Turkey negotiating price for a 2kw device.

Hi Romero,

buring semiconductors... so this is the why the dump around the corner deliveres some goddies at times, but often after a year or two I discover the reason why.... Can you imagine what I have found here some time ago: 112 pieces MJE15034-25 pairs on a fine machined water-cooled stainless steel-plate, including 112 0.3 Ohm 5 Watt ceramic resistors and a fwe diodes. See attached pics

So have a nice party, I will be ready on sunday for new data.

Regards

eagle

@ eagle
that is a beauty :)

Magnetic Force between Parallel Wires - interesting to see

Quote from: Romero on January 14, 2012, 12:10:24 AM
@ eagle
that is a beauty :)

Magnetic Force between Parallel Wires - interesting to see

That's awesome.  Thanks for sharing.

Kapanadze latest video output coil wires

for me it is very strange that the output wires are comming direct from the coil, no filtering no nothing.
this is actually good news, it should be easier to be replicated.

Romero

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Bu buluşla geliştirilen, bağımsız enerji kaynağından (15) aldığı başlangı? elektrik enerjisi ile ?alışmaya başlayıp, daha sonra s?rekli enerji ?reten bağımsız enerji cihazı, şalter (1), kondansat?r (2), platin (3), y?ksek frekans jenarat?r? (4), birinci filitre (5), birinci bobin (6), birinci frekans ayarlayıcısı (7), ikinci filitre (8), frekans dengeleyici (ayarlayıcı) (9), ikinci bobin (10), ikinci frekans ayarlayıcı (11), ?ıkış (faz) (12), pozitif d?n?ş?m kablosu (12a), ?ıkış (n?tr) (13), negatif d?n?ş?m kablosu (13a), n?tr (topraklama) (14), başlangı? enerji kaynağı (15) ile karakterize edilmektedir.

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Application Number: 2007/00996
Document Number: 2007-G-33501
Registration Number: 2007 00996

Date of Application: 20/02/2007
Document Date: 20/02/2007
Registration Date: 21/09/2007

How to Apply: National Reference
Protection Type: Utility Model
Release Date: 03/21/2007

Applicants
Classification of the invention Classes

Tariel KAPANADZE

Tzkaltubo Street No. 9 in Tbilisi Georgia

TURKISH TEXT

Ayten Street 30 / 4 Mebusevleri ANKARA

H01B 17/58
Owners invention

Tariel KAPANADZE

Tzkaltubo Street No. 9 in Tbilisi Georgia


proxy Information

UGUR G?RŞAD YALCINER (DAN YALCINER. And EXTERNAL. TRADE. CO. LTD..)

Cad Tunisia. 85 / 8 KavaklıdereANKARA


invention Title

Independent energy devices.

Summary of invention

This invention was developed, an independent energy source (15) to work with electrical energy from the start, then the continuous energy-independent energy-producing device, circuit breaker (1), capacitor (2), platinum (3), high-frequency generator (4), the first filter (5), the first coil (6), the first frequency tuner (7), the second filter (8), the frequency stabilizer (regulator) (9), the second coil (10), the second frequency tuner (11), output (phase) (12), the positive conversion cable (12a), output (neutral) (13), the negative conversion cable (13a), neutral (ground) (14), the initial energy source (15) is characterized by.

@eagle
I have made a quick video for you to see the trumpet waveform in action.
The other circuit using a larger flyback I could not do it as I am not ready to show some parts of it
This is for all to see how easy you can get it, now it is up to you what you do with it.
Probably like in the speed under load experiment will take long time before someone will replicate and I will attract lots of critics before people will understand it.
Success all!

awesome bro

Quote from: Dave45 on January 17, 2012, 01:00:07 AM
awesome bro

Thank you!

Your wave form almost looks like a caduceus, that means your coils are symmetrical
awesome

Quote from: Dave45 on January 17, 2012, 01:04:54 AM
Your wave form almost looks like a caduceus, that means your coils are symmetrical
awesome

somehow you see the unseen :)

circuit used to get the trumpet waveform, it can be done with many other
this one is based on LaserSaber joule ringer, very low input power

I think scratch has beaten all ! -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMrBE5bWeng&feature=plcp&context=C3b4f01dUDOEgsToPDskJuAFxJ3QirAcCQ5yp7ibiB

Quote from: garrym on January 17, 2012, 11:31:14 AM
I think scratch has beaten all ! -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMrBE5bWeng&feature=plcp&context=C3b4f01dUDOEgsToPDskJuAFxJ3QirAcCQ5yp7ibiB

it is a kacher but with advanced circuit, I believe using mosfet ic driver. Nice job, schematic would be nice to understand it better.
Kacher circuit/coil will transform any metal around in a live and untouchable thing, also radiation is very high.
Scratch should pay attention to the radiation and not ignore it, I've been thru this 2 times and has affected me badly, I am still not fully recovered from one experiment in December, combination of this radiation and Ozone.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on January 17, 2012, 12:38:17 AM
@eagle
I have made a quick video for you to see the trumpet waveform in action.
The other circuit using a larger flyback I could not do it as I am not ready to show some parts of it
This is for all to see how easy you can get it, now it is up to you what you do with it.
Probably like in the speed under load experiment will take long time before someone will replicate and I will attract lots of critics before people will understand it.
Success all!

Hi Romereo,

Nice vid but I am confused now:

First circuit you presented:
SimpleOU Generator.gif

In this pic L2 is 4 turns

Concerning spark-gap you said :
I have about 1mm spark gap in the home made one

Now ? leaving aside the new laserSaber-based circuit for the moment ? I see a total different setup.  L2 of these little transformers are much more then  just 4 turns. I see that a big torus-transformer involved. The sparkgap consists of ?at least ? 14 neo-magnets !?
Additionally I miss a demonstration of the charge-up-process of the battery-voltage.

Last Saturday I found a big computer-screen with exact the same small transformers.
So can you please post the circuit with parts and values you presented in this  vid including an explanation how you did the feed-back  of the current passing the spark-gap ? Torus-Transformer :
I this a 50 Hz Standard-Transformer , a  metglas  or an iron-powder-core ?

Regards

eagle

Quote from: eagle on January 17, 2012, 08:19:47 PM

Hi Romereo,

Nice vid but I am confused now:

First circuit you presented:
SimpleOU Generator.gif

In this pic L2 is 4 turns

Concerning spark-gap you said :
I have about 1mm spark gap in the home made one

Now ? leaving aside the new laserSaber-based circuit for the moment ? I see a total different setup.  L2 of these little transformers are much more then  just 4 turns. I see that a big torus-transformer involved. The sparkgap consists of ?at least ? 14 neo-magnets !?
Additionally I miss a demonstration of the charge-up-process of the battery-voltage.

Last Saturday I found a big computer-screen with exact the same small transformers.
So can you please post the circuit with parts and values you presented in this  vid including an explanation how you did the feed-back  of the current passing the spark-gap ? Torus-Transformer :
I this a 50 Hz Standard-Transformer , a  metglas  or an iron-powder-core ?

Regards

eagle

Hi,
this is not the same transformer I was talking about before, it is identical with the other one but the primary is changed. I was looking to reduce the input power to the lowest point and this one works much better. Probably I will change again in the future, I always try to improve.
This one is enough to be used as battery self charge, and more...
Ignore the toroid, that is an expansion to utilise the power better and make selfrun, you still have the trumpet waveform if you remove it.
I will reconfigure and do a batt charge up video for you to see if that is going to help you.

Romero

Quote from: Romero on January 17, 2012, 09:23:13 PM

Quote from: eagle on January 17, 2012, 08:19:47 PM

Hi Romereo,

Nice vid but I am confused now:

First circuit you presented:
SimpleOU Generator.gif

In this pic L2 is 4 turns

Concerning spark-gap you said :
I have about 1mm spark gap in the home made one

Now ? leaving aside the new laserSaber-based circuit for the moment ? I see a total different setup.  L2 of these little transformers are much more then  just 4 turns. I see that a big torus-transformer involved. The sparkgap consists of ?at least ? 14 neo-magnets !?
Additionally I miss a demonstration of the charge-up-process of the battery-voltage.

Last Saturday I found a big computer-screen with exact the same small transformers.
So can you please post the circuit with parts and values you presented in this  vid including an explanation how you did the feed-back  of the current passing the spark-gap ? Torus-Transformer :
I this a 50 Hz Standard-Transformer , a  metglas  or an iron-powder-core ?

Regards

eagle

Hi,
this is not the same transformer I was talking about before, it is identical with the other one but the primary is changed. I was looking to reduce the input power to the lowest point and this one works much better. Probably I will change again in the future, I always try to improve.
This one is enough to be used as battery self charge, and more...
Ignore the toroid, that is an expansion to utilise the power better and make selfrun, you still have the trumpet waveform if you remove it.
I will reconfigure and do a batt charge up video for you to see if that is going to help you.

Romero

Thanks Romero, I need help also :(

Cheers Hitman

QuoteHi,
this is not the same transformer I was talking about before, it is identical with the other one but the primary is changed. I was looking to reduce the input power to the lowest point and this one works much better. Probably I will change again in the future, I always try to improve.
This one is enough to be used as battery self charge, and more...
Ignore the toroid, that is an expansion to utilise the power better and make selfrun, you still have the trumpet waveform if you remove it.
I will reconfigure and do a batt charge up video for you to see if that is going to help you.

Romero

Hi Romero, it would be sufficient, if you give a short description of the primary-changes ( a sharp pic would be very helpful) , feedback-coil and capacitor-values, these are things I can not see on a vid. As I can see you have just used one battery. We need a common start-up-point otherwise replication become divergent and failure as likely as not. All I can say up to now: it is very difficult to replicate with older Flybacks, so my guess is it has to do with the core-material and the impedance of the HV-Coil. Also the time-constant of the driver-coil in relation to the fireing-sequence of the sparkgap is relevant. What about the spark-gap ? Are these neos I have seen or is this just plain steel ? If these are neos then this is something very important and the reason why it will work in the first place

regards
eagle

@eagle
here are some close pictures
please folow the schematic posted based on lasersaber joule ringer, in these pictures I have changed the free hv end... use it as before. for a guaranteed success the lenght of the wire in the free end is very important, try different, in the trumpet waveform video it was 14cm but it might be different depending on the components used.
Diodes used are 15kv/20ma all other components you can see...

I have made another one today using 13007 transistor, 1n4148 diode, 7.5k resistor, 0.01uf capacitor ... one more is going to use mosfet, that is for tomorrow.

THANKS ROMEROUK..
PLYZ POSTED FOTO COIL ...
SHEMATIC ...
1 COIL = 4 T
2 COIL = 22 T
3 COIL = ????
4COIL = 2 T
hv diode = ???
THANKS...
ANTANAS
LITHUANIA
MY SYTE
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/

@FreeEnergyLT
for the high voltage coil I don't know how many turns are there, diodes I used are 12000volts 20ma, it depends on the flyback output, in my case these diodes are more than I need.
You must understand that this is not a free energy device it is only a part of it and requires more work to have a complete and working device.

This demo was just to show the trumpet waveform in action with simple and easy circuit, I am not proving free energy here.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on January 18, 2012, 11:53:07 AM
@FreeEnergyLT
for the high voltage coil I don't know how many turns are there, diodes I used are 12000volts 20ma, it depends on the flyback output, in my case these diodes are more than I need.
You must understand that this is not a free energy device it is only a part of it and requires more work to have a complete and working device.

This demo was just to show the trumpet waveform in action with simple and easy circuit, I am not proving free energy here.

Regards,
Romero

THANKS ,
FOTO COIL PLYZ,,

Hello Romero,

now things become more clear. I once had a similar Waveform -. sort of the nascendend state of a trumpet- when I used your first circuit. It formed when I attached a wire to the negative terminal of the left battery and connected this wire to a set of 4 heavy masses ( 4 big transformers) thus a capacity towards air was created and little sparks appeared all over the masses when I attached any wire of the transformer to this antenna-wire. LaserSaber does not use mass or ground at all, so this is the next step I will do in my old setup. It took me some hours to repair the flyback and exchange the burned transistor. Now - looking at these littel transformers- I get the impression that it will be difficult to get an identical effect with these old Flyback-Transformers because of the selfcapacity of the hv-coil ( pic attached ).
One remaining question for now: did you leave the primary of this little transformer open ? using 4 new windings on in ?

Your homemade Sparkgap: are these neo-magnets ? You did?nt answer to this question.
So this is not a free energy device ?
What about your previous statement about selfcharging of the batteries ? Does it or not ?

Regards

eagle

If a device has positive gain, and that gain is fed back to the input, it will have a trumpet waveform. That gain can come from free energy or it can come from an increasing load on the power source. So logically speaking...a free energy device will usually have a trumpet waveform if the energy gain is looped to the input, but not all trumpet waveforms are free energy devices. The only way to know is to measure battery load during operation.

@eagle
as it is the circuit is not a free energy device, charging the batteries I consider is not enough but it cand do much more... I must explain before people will buid it and expect free energy straight away.
The video was to demonstrate how easy is to get the trumpet waveform because everyone is looking for it and only few managed to obtain it and most of them using dangerous high voltage level, this one won't kill and have minimum radiation.

Don't jump to a final project before you understand every step and this is one of it and another is the old Kapanadze picture below.

I have not answered about the spark gap because I had no ideea what neos you were talking about now I understand. There are no magnets, it is just 2 pieces of brass in a fuse holder. I made a close picture for you to see.

Hello Romero,

QuoteDon't jump to a final project before you understand every step and this is one of it and another is the old Kapanadze picture below.

I fully agree. I have learned to systematically develop these things by an old electronic professional  a few years ago. So no worry about that. This is the reason why I come here with so many question on certain details.

Concerning your analysis of Kapanadze: you are a very keen observer. One thing happens with an elongated capacitor: it resembles a transmission-line, has a signal-runtime and in this configuration the H-field-vector in the coax is at right angles to that of the copper-pipe-coil.
The same thing is true for the caduceus-coil, it is a transmission-line where the electric and the magnetic field oscillates in strenght by changing position at the crossing-points

Sparkgap : I understand now, it is designed that way for cooling-purpose.

Have you found out which pairs of the primary can be used for drivercoil ( Collector)  and which one for the feedback-coil attached to the base ?
I am not sure if I take it out completely and wind a new one as the very low ohm-values are hard to measure with a normal Ohm-Meter.

Regards

eagle

          hello friends

  If you have not seen the new kapagen replica, made ​​by the user delamorto Russian, so the posting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eguUdQFmzYs

http://15anosfuncionandomovimientoperpetuo.blogspot.com/p/kapagen-replica.html


hello romeruk

  that has given me joy to see you still around here, thought I was not going to see, I'm glad to have read articles of yours

chauuuu

@eagle
the original primary was removed and redone again

Quote from: Romero on January 18, 2012, 08:26:58 PM
@eagle
the original primary was removed and redone again

ok, thank you

eagle

Quote from: ismael_34 on January 18, 2012, 08:24:33 PM

          hello friends

  If you have not seen the new kapagen replica, made ​​by the user delamorto Russian, so the posting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eguUdQFmzYs

http://15anosfuncionandomovimientoperpetuo.blogspot.com/p/kapagen-replica.html


hello romeruk

  that has given me joy to see you still around here, thought I was not going to see, I'm glad to have read articles of yours

chauuuu

Hi and welcome,
The schematic is not the same with the video, check the number of coils and compare with the coil in the video, we should have 6 layers on one side and 5 on another, that should make a bigger coil, the one in the video has max 3 layers.

Regards,
Romero

true romeruk
  I commented on the blog, is not the scheme is very real but very rough, I have observed after the schema and delamorto video, I can distinguish only is using a bridge rectifier, and added to the system the system Kacher

Another easy way to get a trumpet waveform.

Hi Romero,

It's nice to see you carrying on with this.  I am very busy with work at the moment but I look forward to joining in again in the near future.  I am lurking around here reading the progress often.  I have gotten the trumpetwave form before as well.  Great work everybody.

Quote from: lasersaber on January 18, 2012, 10:53:59 PM
Hi Romero,

It's nice to see you carrying on with this.  I am very busy with work at the moment but I look forward to joining in again in the near future.  I am lurking around here reading the progress often.  I have gotten the trumpetwave form before as well.  Great work everybody.

Hi,
lots of people are hunting for this waveform, here are few easy ways to get it.
Did you ever managed to get it with solid state components, no spark gap?

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on January 18, 2012, 10:53:29 PM
Another easy way to get a trumpet waveform.

Hi Romero, where did you get this plasma-tube from ? Looks selfmade. What kind of gas is in it, hydrogen at low pressure ? You are using the 9 Volt coil for heating the magnetron-electrode, eh ?

Nice

eagle

Romero,

I just saw in the vid that you almost touched the core... very dangerous !! I hope you removed the bolt in the core conecting it to one end of the high voltage coil ! This might be lethal since you are running the secondary free wheeling, so the core carries 2000 Volt AC !!!
It does not matter at this high voltage if you are grounded or not.. a shock even with one terminal will kill you... not to mention your daughter playing with it.

I once touched the core by chance running a voltage-balanced set of 2 MOTs ( transductor-test) with my finger and got a 300 to 500 V shock - right arm in - left arm out. This almost killed me.
I was lucky that the current run from on arm  over my neck to the other arm and not across the thorax.
Since this experience I detach the HV-Coil from thre core and isolate the 2 terminals

By the way, this herb here should help you recover your lung and bronchial tube :
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15005644

Try to get a homoeopathic dilution D3 or better D6 for best performance.

eagle

 
Thank you Znel for the info and schematic posted, some of them I have tested already.

I bought the plasma tube on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170753652796?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Touching this one is not lethal, other circuits yes but this one is safe, I would not let my kids to play with a very dangerous device. When you have kids around they are always curious to see what is what especially these plasma lights, my kids are used to high voltages even more than 20000 volts very low amp.

@eagle
You made me curious, how do you know I have lungs problems after the experiment in december? I will try that recomandation of yours, I need to read more about it before, the doctors here are saying that I have no problem... this is UK, if you have a problem better go to any other country in Europe but not here, my opinion about  NHS  is very bad, you go to the doctor and all you get is the universal pill, Paracetamol, good for everything :) I might fly back to my home country  for a weekend to have a proper check up.

Regards,
Romero

@trace_ru
I don't claim the ownership of anything, it is just the results of my experiments. I am not even showing all my experiments but not for your reasons... how can something be confirmed by others if was not made public first.
Most of the trumpet waveforms published before are the result of very high voltage and that is scary for many people.This one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QiI8p1gi4 is another one with not very high voltage and ca be performed by anyone.

I know I am exposing myself to lots of radiation but Tesla lived long enough and most of his life was in the middle of this high voltage experiments.

----
I don't mean you should not tell others about your hobby mate, but please let's turn it down a bit. I mean let's not announce a new discovery and copyright it before it is confirmed by other----

As I just said before, to be confirmed first must be published... I am not going to turn down, I would like everyone to publish everything, even very simple experiments, for many people starting to play this game will be useful.

Regards,
Romero

Quote@eagle
You made me curious, how do you know I have lungs problems after the experiment in december? I will try that recomandation of yours, I need to read more about it before, the doctors here are saying that I have no problem... this is UK, if you have a problem better go to any other country in Europe but not here, my opinion about  NHS  is very bad, you go to the doctor and all you get is the universal pill, Paracetamol, good for everything :) I might fly back to my home country  for a weekend to have a proper check up.

Regards,
Romero

Romereo,

didnt you say somthing about a recovery after breathing in too much ozone created by the sparkgap ?
Ozone is strongly affecting the pulmonary alveoli if it gets deep enough down passing the bronchial tube.
While passing the bronchial tube it first affects ( burns)  the mucose membrane of the tube and if it is still active destroyes the aveoli. When I once was flying to the US the ozone-concentration in the aircraft-cabine was so strong for hours that I had serious problems for some weeks. So I know what I am speaking about.
These homeopathic remedies mostly have a wider spectrum of properties or effectiveness. It is not especially limited or designed to asthma, it has its focus on the breathing-organs, nature does this.
Of course the doctors may not know it but a lung-spext knows what ozone does to your lungs . I have enough experience with homeopathic remedies ( over 35 years now ) and I can tell you that it is save, especially if you use the dilution mentioned.You even can try to get a radix, put it into ethanol for some time and then make a 50 % water and ethanol-dilution D3 or D6. I heard in GB it is much easier to get these remedies that in the US..
In germany here where iI live, it is no problem to get these remedies.

Concerning your MOT-Experiment : How did you power the MOT ? via mains ?

Regards

eagle

@trace_ru,

your comment is kind of agressive and I do not understand this. Can you please give an indication where romereo was claiming that it is HIS discovery ?

About your comment of the radiation-Level : Where the heck do the 500 Kilovolt per 2 inch come from and your comparison of being exposed to 260 Gr radium ? 30 000 volt are jumping 1 cm, so 5.8 cm = 2 inch would be a voltage of 174 000 V and this definitly does not create alfa-radiation only a lot of ozone, what a nonsense.  It definitly is not correct to compare a 1 mm sparkgap which fires a 3000 Volt with a 2 inch calculated Voltage-Level ( and in addition calcutated wrong) simply because the area where ions are created is much smaller.
So please stay reasonable and do not place desinformation here confusing the members of this forum

Regards

eagle

Quote from: eagle on January 19, 2012, 01:09:18 PM

Quote@eagle
You made me curious, how do you know I have lungs problems after the experiment in december? I will try that recomandation of yours, I need to read more about it before, the doctors here are saying that I have no problem... this is UK, if you have a problem better go to any other country in Europe but not here, my opinion about  NHS  is very bad, you go to the doctor and all you get is the universal pill, Paracetamol, good for everything :) I might fly back to my home country  for a weekend to have a proper check up.

Regards,
Romero

Romereo,

didnt you say somthing about a recovery after breathing in too much ozone created by the sparkgap ?
Ozone is strongly affecting the pulmonary alveoli if it gets deep enough down passing the bronchial tube.
While passing the bronchial tube it first affects ( burns)  the mucose membrane of the tube and if it is still active destroyes the aveoli. When I once was flying to the US the ozone-concentration in the aircraft-cabine was so strong for hours that I had serious problems for some weeks. So I know what I am speaking about.
These homeopathic remedies mostly have a wider spectrum of properties or effectiveness. It is not especially limited or designed to asthma, it has its focus on the breathing-organs, nature does this.
Of course the doctors may not know it but a lung-spext knows what ozone does to your lungs . I have enough experience with homeopathic remedies ( over 35 years now ) and I can tell you that it is save, especially if you use the dilution mentioned.You even can try to get a radix, put it into ethanol for some time and then make a 50 % water and ethanol-dilution D3 or D6. I heard in GB it is much easier to get these remedies that in the US..
In germany here where iI live, it is no problem to get these remedies.

Concerning your MOT-Experiment : How did you power the MOT ? via mains ?

Regards

eagle

Hi, thank you for the info, I am going to see another doctor outside UK, possible this weekend. To bad that Ozone is so dangerous, I had very good results with it but what is the point if it will kill us, my mistake is that I have experimenting inside because of the outside temperature.

in the last video the MOT is powered from the plasma tube, via the capacitor and spark gap, that was only to see what I can do with it, it works much better with  air core  coil or ferrite for the output coil.
Powering the MOT from the mains will keep my hands away from the core... :) now I understand why you said that it is lethal...

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: trace_ru on January 19, 2012, 05:08:54 PM
@eagle

I am not being aggressive at all. Romero puts his mark on every published schematics. Which is OK if one acknowledges that schematics comes from someone else. Otherwise punters like yourself will assume that it originates from Romero. I think it is only fair that we give respect to those who were original discoverers, don't you?

On the method of calculating the level of radiation. It is correct. I presented it in the simplest form and not going to go further into this discussion. There are tons of publications where you can look it up.

My reason for bringing it up is to highlight the fact that working with high levels of energy is inherently dangerous and one needs to be very careful. I don't mean careful like 'don't touch it' and 'one hand in the pocket'. I mean careful because it is dangerous even if you just stand near.

can you plese name the  original discoverers of this trumpet waveform? in my opinion the most of the  original discoverers have or had patents on their inventions and have no problem with people using their ideeas.

Sometimes we can add to any existing technology, as you know, many things are hiden from people, lots of things that were invented long time before and could help us all. I am not an inventor, I only try to experiment different technologies and share my work, I am not claiming to be the originator of any device I have ever shown.

Do you really think that I am stealing other people work and because I add my name on the posted drawings I claim that it is mine? I really don't understand why you are so upset with something that you should be happy, anyone contributing with anything to a better life or technology should be welcome.

Everything I shown is just principle of work, not a final product... what will happend if I will show a final product?
I really don't understand... I believe all people from UK, Larkspur USA, Russia, China...all world  should work together, let's do it.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: trace_ru on January 19, 2012, 07:09:48 PM
I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. It wasn't intended at all.

As for the trumpet waveform...I scanned that picture from an old (1980s) book on volumetric magnetic resonance imaging in the library. The schematics posted earlier supplies HV to a adjustable chamber exciting copper disc inside on the atomic-molecular level. Having been amplified in the chamber the generated signal exits through the centre hole in the disc. Quick and dirty as the leaving signal is very much like X-ray.

Next time I go there I will copy down the ISBN number for you so that you can look it up.

Sharing the results is great and is, definitely, the way forward. I hope there will be some interesting ones. This is the reason I keep checking posts here. No pressure.

Hi,
is not about my feelings but I go mad when I hear about restrictions or filtering, I am comming from an ex comunist country and there everything was close to what you said before, it was a continous DON'T... I know you live in USA now but I think you are comming from a comunist country too and you should understand what I mean.
You just made me think again what to do and from now on I will  post more videos with everything I do, even the stupid ones... I do lots of stupid ones too but is fun.
I have just managed to get the same waveform with the help of an ignition car coil and keeping the battery charged, has been running for about 2 hours now and voltage went up in the battery. I will leave it runing more to see if is going to increase the charge, sometimes it  drops after few hours.

Romero

Here is another video using car ignition coil and a 555 timer.

First picture is the actual schematic
Second picture is going to be done later.

Romero

Hi Romero,

I am missing your personal hand-signature  ;D

You are running this only with the 200 mA may-Current of the timer, using the same small HV-transormer from the flat-screen ?

What is this bulb on the ignition-coil for ?

How many 1N4007 did you place there in series ?

Too many questions I know, still struggling with your first circuit.

Regards

Mike

Quote from: eagle on January 19, 2012, 09:50:10 PM
Hi Romero,

I am missing your personal hand-signature  ;D

You are running this only with the 200 mA may-Current of the timer, using the same small HV-transormer from the flat-screen ?

What is this bulb on the ignition-coil for ?

How many 1N4007 did you place there in series ?

Too many questions I know, still struggling with your first circuit.

Regards

Mike

I am using uf5408 30 of them, I am using those in different experiments.
I am not sure what bulb you are reffering to, maybe the spark gap tube?
I would recomend to use the circuit from yesterday video as it uses very little power.

Romero

Hi Romereo,

thank you. Ah, I see this is the spark-tube.  uF 5408, ok, I have used 5kv from a microwave-oven. It might be that these have too much losses.
The circuit you refer to its laserSaber circuit I guess.

Regards
Mike

@eagle
yes, I am refering to lasersaber circuit

Hi Romero,

I am still working on schema#1 testing some important parameters.
One of these parameters is the counter-balance of the HV-Coil ( originally the mass-connection of the HV-coil )
As I remember from one of his patents, tesla used a  condensor connected to ground in one of his inventions.

This is in accordance with the critical value of the wire-lenght you metioned.

I will stay with the scheme posted in your ? Reply #124 for some while until I have experienced all important factors. I do not jump to a different set-up if the original does not work properly in the beginning. I prefer systematic development.
I have seen the ascendent state of a trompet-like waveform, it was not ascending but not degrading according to natures e-funktion. It resembled a oszillation with a stable amplitude between the fireing-sequence of the sparkgap.

Regards

Mike

Quote from: Romero on January 19, 2012, 11:50:28 PM
@eagle
yes, I am refering to lasersaber circuit

Zilano said if you wind a RESONANT second output coil on that toroid, you would go OU. ;)

Quote from: a.king21 on January 22, 2012, 03:38:48 PM

Quote from: Romero on January 19, 2012, 11:50:28 PM
@eagle
yes, I am refering to lasersaber circuit

Zilano said if you wind a RESONANT second output coil on that toroid, you would go OU. ;)

one of the biggest mistakes is people talking about how many turns... it should be better about lenght of wire, that includes total lenght including terminal wires.
I found recently with one of the experiments that 1 cm more or less will cancel the trumpet effect. It is  very similar with what I found with my muller experiment with speed up or no drag at different levels, same here.

If for example the free end of the high voltage transformer has a wire of 12cm long and it works, then 13 or 11 will not work but we will find another lenght that will work again, let's say 48cm.... and again more. Not all of them will behave the same, at least one will perform much better than all others.
We might get to OU and having a device working on one of the lower resonant points we stick there without knowing that at a different resonant point we can get much better output.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: a.king21 on January 22, 2012, 03:38:48 PM
Zilano said if you wind a RESONANT second output coil on that toroid, you would go OU. ;)

I would trust her far more if she had ever shown a picture of a real device. She seems to aggregate the work of others and obviously has spent an immense amount of time studying...but...it's one thing to know about something and something completely different to have built it.

Quote from: Romero on January 23, 2012, 02:30:04 PM
one of the biggest mistakes is people talking about how many turns... it should be better about lenght of wire, that includes total lenght including terminal wires.
I found recently with one of the experiments that 1 cm more or less will cancel the trumpet effect. It is  very similar with what I found with my muller experiment with speed up or no drag at different levels, same here.

If for example the free end of the high voltage transformer has a wire of 12cm long and it works, then 13 or 11 will not work but we will find another lenght that will work again, let's say 48cm.... and again more. Not all of them will behave the same, at least one will perform much better than all others.
We might get to OU and having a device working on one of the lower resonant points we stick there without knowing that at a different resonant point we can get much better output.

Regards,
Romero

Lumped LC will get you resonance, but length is the only way to create sympathetic harmonics in your resonance. When you are LC resonant at the frequency that matches the spectrum that your length implies, then you have something. I am absolutely certain FE is in the harmonics, in one way or another.

A theory I have: When a coil emits a longitudinal wave (think sound wave, but electric) there is a certain distance away where any reflection from a second coil would be destructive and a different distance away where the reflection would be additive. For those distances to be short enough to be interesting, the frequency would be very high. High enough that 1 or 2 cm of length would change the spectrum, and high enough that your coil would need to be designed for a wide spectrum...thick wire and/or Litz in a length that allows the creation of standing harmonics...in other words: lumped LC freq = length freq.

When the frequency/distance/harmonic relationship is correct, it would appear to me that the resulting additive signal would result in a Lenz-less self-reinforcing wave between the two coils, that would show the trumpet characteristic. I would expect that for small devices the frequency would be well into the GHz.

Just a theory.

Good theory LtBolo, Thank you!

Regards,
Romero

Another experiment without any spark gap or high voltage.

Oh that looks nice  :D

Cheers Hitman

Finally you got back to playing with it.

how far off a self runner ?

Garry

romero happy new year to you sir i love your videos of late keep up the fantastic work ron

Quote from: garrym on January 24, 2012, 05:30:00 AM
Finally you got back to playing with it.

how far off a self runner ?

Garry

I had no intention to get a self runner, I only used that to experiment this type of wave. Further experimenting will have no moving parts.

Regards,
Romero

Sorry,

thought it looked like - 

http://underservice.org/index.php?topic=3.msg572#msg572

Garry

Quote from: garrym on January 24, 2012, 09:24:39 AM
Sorry,

thought it looked like - 

http://underservice.org/index.php?topic=3.msg572#msg572

Garry

same device, just more components... :)

Hello,

someone posted this in the Kapanadze-therad ( overunitty.com):
http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~fajans/Autoresonance/Autoresonance.htm (http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~fajans/Autoresonance/Autoresonance.htm)

Regards

Mike

hi romero in the lasersaber circuit if you put  capacitor across the base coil  increase the output at the same input and you get the trumpet waveform the scope probe is near the spark gap the second scope shot is whit the capacitor across the collecto coil like zilano circuit hope  is usefull

sorry for my very poor english by

@gnino
very well done, I am very happy you managed to get it right.

Romero

Hello gnino,

can you show us here some details of your setup ? I would be interested what kind of flyback you use.

Regards

Mike

Hello all,

whe I saw Wesley?s vid about the sparkgap-evaluation a memory came alive from a time I was evaluating tungsten-electrodes for a project not related to this subject here. The reason for my reseach then was to find an no-radioactive material with a very low work-function. May I introduce to you this electrode-material here

http://www.multistriketungstens.com/

Attention to the paragraph "science a bit" will give you the clou of why I post this here.
Its for those of you who are able to manufacture a DIY-sparkgap.

Regards

Mike

The output power comes direct from the top coils

Hi everybody :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3HPYYzB0s#t=0h48m20s
The results of our team hard work in live show and there is live demonstration.

Have fun!

Quote from: T-1000 on January 28, 2012, 03:24:26 PM
Hi everybody :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD3HPYYzB0s#t=0h48m20s
The results of our team hard work in live show and there is live demonstration.

Have fun!

Thank you for all hard work you and everyone  did !
I admire Wesley courage to do what he does, I know is not easy.

Regards,
Romero

Hello Romero,

concerning LaserSaber-circuit which I will try to test:

- What kind of HV-transformer did you use with this circuit and whar battery-voltage ?
  the small ones rescued from the flat-screen do not have enough space for  26 primary windings.

I did try it with my old flyback ( 2000 V ) but it just consumed 100 mA at 12 V and output was way to small even if I reduced the bias-resistor to 2200 ohm.

I all threads I observed since more than 15 years up until now the prevalent pattern is that people present circuits with vague details and ask for replication. Assuming that this Kapanadze-development is of some importance I expect more clear details of circuit diagrams for the purpose of replication as this is a usual procedure in sientific develeopments after publication.

Even with wesleys presentation of circuit it will be very difficult to replicate without a standard western flyback-transformer. These old russion transformers have total different pin-denotiatiosn which do not applay to our western standard - as you have presented with a VW-ignition-coil but also in these diagram many details missing - so no replication possible.

So it is of no wonder that even verpies who is a scientist has lost interest in stephasn forum - which I regret very much - after very intensive support and many questions asked concerning correct measurement methods.

Regards

Mike

Quote from: eagle on January 29, 2012, 02:41:19 PM
Hello Romero,

concerning LaserSaber-circuit which I will try to test:

- What kind of HV-transformer did you use with this circuit and whar battery-voltage ?
  the small ones rescued from the flat-screen do not have enough space for  26 primary windings.

I did try it with my old flyback ( 2000 V ) but it just consumed 100 mA at 12 V and output was way to small even if I reduced the bias-resistor to 2200 ohm.

I all threads I observed since more than 15 years up until now the prevalent pattern is that people present circuits with vague details and ask for replication. Assuming that this Kapanadze-development is of some importance I expect more clear details of circuit diagrams for the purpose of replication as this is a usual procedure in sientific develeopments after publication.

Even with wesleys presentation of circuit it will be very difficult to replicate without a standard western flyback-transformer. These old russion transformers have total different pin-denotiatiosn which do not applay to our western standard - as you have presented with a VW-ignition-coil but also in these diagram many details missing - so no replication possible.

So it is of no wonder that even verpies who is a scientist has lost interest in stephasn forum - which I regret very much - after very intensive support and many questions asked concerning correct measurement methods.

Regards

Mike

I am attaching a close picture to one transformer recovered from TFT flat screen TV, the battery is AA to compare size. This one is not modified and the original primary has 122 turns. Maybe you have a transformer recovered from TFT laptop screen, and that is really small.
I have shown 3 different videos just to make sure people will have a starting point, I don't know what else I can do.
Wesley demonstration can be replicated without that russian flyback, I don't know why people are always looking to get identical parts, I can confirm that I have replicated it using a tesla coil as the high voltage source and another experiment using the small flyback transformers.
Soemthing is missing on ou.com, In my opinion too much talk and less action, very important info and tips are ignored most of the times and people are talking in scientist vocabulary.
I agree with the Smartscarecrow moderator, last video was very confusing and only few people understood something.

Best regards,
Romero

Hi Romereo,

quote : "I don't know what else I can do",

answer : more precise

Hi Romereo,

Sorry, post was interrupted while writing , disappeared in the editor and was posted trunctuated?and sorry for this being a longer posting.

quote : "I don't know what else I can do",

answer : - more precise
               - not bypassing questions, answer more to the point
               - less confusing

concerning your pic with the battery :

is this AAA or AA type, difference in length is 1 cm.
Yes I know that you got a big one, mine are not from a laptop but from a big screen however there were 2 smaller-ones for driving 4 cold-cathode-tubes.

In my post #246 I asked about the primary of this transformer. Your reply was in #249: "redone"
In # 296 you say "...not modified" which is confusing.

wesley and Arunas posting?s:
also confusing, an overload of diagrams leaves one paralyzed as to how to  proceed...agreed

this is the reason that I stick with one circuit..in your case with the "selfcharge circuit" posted first by you. Pics of mine #209 .

more precise also would have helped me on where to measure the trumped-waveform. Yesterday evening after more than 10 days of building and testing I discovered by chance that the trumpet is there at the entrance of the avramenko-fork....it was always there.. I did not noticed it.

I previously was watching the signal at the positive terminal of the battery, signal can bee seen at ?# 209.
I had even better waveforms here, I had antinodes shortly after spark-ignition.

Now I changed the circuit posted by you at #124 by replacing 220 Ohm to 470 and 27 to 47 Ohm.
Current draw is now 0,6 A. Spark is weaker and no selfcharge-effect is present.

LaserSabers circuit is not working with my transformer as presented: please be more specific about what transformer you used with this circuit, changes of primary ?
Diode uf4007 does not make sense as it does not bypass to the ground or negative terminal. I only can avoid parasitic oscillation. Any singular bias ( 4.7 KOhm) results in a strong load-dependance and will destabilize the working-point of the transistor and therefore the frequency.

So, again, I will stay with one circuit as long as I have found out everything possible.

I like to make a remark on the trumpet-waveform:

As long as I do not have the waveform present in a normal hv-cpacitor-loading-process I personally would not dare to make a claim as to this being something special and a  prerequisite for more energy coming into a system.
So why is no one presenting  a ?normal? cap-loading-waveform for comparison  instead of chasing trumpet-waveforms not knowing the difference ?

Last question : what is your power-consumption ? better : current-draw ? of this basic first presented circuit using your flat-screen-transformer ?
If there is a self-charge-process as you described ( have not seen this on one of your vids ) then there must be a certain relation present between power consumed and power coming back into the system .
..and another remark on charging a battery:  any oscillation created in L3 / C2 will not charge a battery - only a one-directed impuls can do this.
I measured my L3 wrapped around the core with a precise LC-meter. L3 is about 3 to 7 mykohenry.
Using a capacitor of 150 to 250 pf will give the following resonance-frequencies:

http://www.pronine.ca/lcf.htm

upper range
3 mykoH 150 pF = 7.5 Mhz
3 mykoH 250 pf = 5.8 Mhz

Lower range

7 mykoH 150 pF = 4.9 MHz
7 mykoH 250 pF = 3.8 Mhz

So no wonder that I could not find any influence during measuring with my scope while changing values  according to the above given values.
We would need a spectrum-analyser to find out the puls-slope of the firing spargap.

3 * 10 exp -6 second here in the 2nd notch quenched sparkgap ?
http://www.hoelscher-hi.de/hendrik/hv/tesla.htm

? will give you an idea of the frequency fg of a sparkgap about  330 KHz without any additional inductance other than the cables leading to and from the sparkgap.

..waiting for your answer.

Regards

Mike

@eagle
it is late now but I will try to answer few questions.
to be more precise I will need to experiment only with one device but I am working with 3 devices at the same time , maybe somehow is confusing for you but for me it looks very clear.
The waveform is important while tuning and must stay the same while load is added to the circuit, in general the load will affect the input but in my latest experiments any kind of load I add will not affect the input even if I overload the system the power output is reduced but no effect to the input draw.
Because I am changing things all the time it is difficult to post everything, but all experiments are based on the circuits I posted recently, Wesley schematic too.
The battery is AA., the small transformer dimension: 3.5cm / 2.6cm .
Transformer redone or modified means all wire in the primary removed and wound again.
The experiments with the small transformers are to understand and play with lower voltage before I continue with the larger one.
I have burnet lots of components using the larger one and this way I can avoid some of the failures.
Power-consumption for the small transformers is between 200-300ma/12v.
All experiments using the small transformers will selfcharge but will destroy the battery after a while.

In the larger setup I have I am using a signal generator to drive the flyback transformer, it is a must for a proper tuning.
The larger device I have under test uses 220v input using a home made 12/220v inverter and I found that system works much better using high voltage to drive the HV flyback.

I don't have a spectrum-analyser... but I have access to a lab that has any device I need, the only think is that I can only do testing there and I am not ready for that, but I will do it if I need to.
I have friends there who are scientists and can translate all this into scientific words, the only problem is that none of my friends at this lab will accept that we can create a self runing device...


Regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,

I've been following your work and related experiments both here and on the energeticforum. Anyway this is my first post.

First off I'd like to thank you for sharing your work and experiments with us. And second I would like to have something clarified: You said before that the battery will be destroyed after some time when using the small (primary rewound) tft transformers. So if we were to use the hand wound coil on a pvc pipe with the selfcharging circuit would the batteries be susceptible to the same damaging process?

Thank you! Best regards!

Quote from: common.woo on January 31, 2012, 01:09:12 PM
Hi Romero,

I've been following your work and related experiments both here and on the energeticforum. Anyway this is my first post.

First off I'd like to thank you for sharing your work and experiments with us. And second I would like to have something clarified: You said before that the battery will be destroyed after some time when using the small (primary rewound) tft transformers. So if we were to use the hand wound coil on a pvc pipe with the selfcharging circuit would the batteries be susceptible to the same damaging process?

Thank you! Best regards!

I believe the batteries will be damaged in both ways.
We can avoid that by using one or more capacitors then we can run an inverter circuit from  the capacitors back to the battery. I have not tested it like that, I only used batteries recovered from old computer ups and it did run and maintained charge for days before batteries died completely.
If you have 2 batteries that you can afford to lose then try it and see it yourself.
Dumping charge to the capacitor then using inverter to keep the battery charged should work fine, a simple flipflop and a ferrite toroid would do the job.
I will try it myself but at the moment I have lots of other experiments in progress.

Regards,
Romero

Thank you!

When (I'm an optimist) I'll succed using your suggestion I'll post some results.

i make a video for the trumpet waveform larsaber circuit with capacitor on low voltatege coil approximate input power 5 watt

later I will make one with capacitor in different place

p.s. eagle
don't ask me value you have to find for your setup

Well done gnino, more and more experimenters are getting closer.

Regards,
Romero

i think with the trumpet waveform we have more frequency so is easier enter in resonance

a question :
with the secondary of the flyback shorted i have the maximun power consuption right? charge capacitor can't require more power?

Quote from: gnino on February 03, 2012, 01:27:21 PM
a question :
with the secondary of the flyback shorted i have the maximun power consuption right? charge capacitor can't require more power?

Flyback secondary must not be shorted, capacitor can be charged with minimum power.
To maintain the self power, only little power goes back to the driver circuit, from 10-20watt, just to keep the electronics powered, the resonance will create a loop between the secondary back to the primary coil.There is a shorted coil in the circuit, that helps to maintain resonance.
The output is limited only by the size of the wire in the coils or the moment where the resonance is broken.
In my opinion Kapanadze concept has almost unlimited power output.

Romero

@gnino there is no resonance in your experiment also you cannot connect the load direct to the flyback, you need one more conversion stage (another coil).

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on February 04, 2012, 11:15:12 AM
@gnino there is no resonance in your experiment also you cannot connect the load direct to the flyback, you need one more conversion stage (another coil).

Regards,
Romero

you are right i want only show replication of tesla patent anyway the load is in series with the spark gap

by

Hi Romero,
I want to share with you and others an experiment I made with a circuit witch behaves quite strange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3UnQyd2MSg&context=C34bad9eADOEgsToPDskKH-l905QKbGeew02QrmFxt

When I increase the resistance at the output, the current gets much stronger as expected and the input power consumption stays stabile. Also the power gets lead back to the FBT where sparks jumping over to the ferrite. Now, I have to get the output somehow adjusted so I can connect a lamp, otherwise I burn all of them.
You remember the little welding machine from the Philippines. Inside we have two conductors and a cap. ...  I think, the idea behind comes from http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_plane.htm
What you think about?
Br.
Tonyx

Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
Hi Romero,
I want to share with you and others an experiment I made with a circuit witch behaves quite strange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3UnQyd2MSg&context=C34bad9eADOEgsToPDskKH-l905QKbGeew02QrmFxt

When I increase the resistance at the output, the current gets much stronger as expected and the input power consumption stays stabile. Also the power gets lead back to the FBT where sparks jumping over to the ferrite. Now, I have to get the output somehow adjusted so I can connect a lamp, otherwise I burn all of them.
You remember the little welding machine from the Philippines. Inside we have two conductors and a cap. ...  I think, the idea behind comes from http://www.glafreniere.com/sa_plane.htm
What you think about?
Br.
Tonyx

can you try it again without C2 in the circuit? also try with a different value for C2 and compare. you will have to increase the frequency and get resonance in L1. If you can obtain resonance in L1 then L2 and L3 will automaticaly get into resonance.
i am not sure you understand what I mean but you need to create pressure in L1 and release it at the highest point.
A shorted coil can help further, direct short or via a capacitor.

Regards,
Romero

Hi Romero,
Thank you for the info.
Well, I have tested different C2 sizes as you proposed - actually it's quite difficult to find the best size without the ability to measure the output. But, as far as I can see there isn't a big influence of this cap to the circuit.
I just see when I short cut the outlet, the sparks can get very strong and and also the circuit goes into resonance on load with stable input.
My next step will be now to reduce the frequency in L2. Btw. does the attachment option work properly? - I was not able to add a pdf or jpg.
Br.
Tony

@Tony
there is still a problem with attachments, I am working to fix it. I have transfered the site to another server and some of the features are not working yet.

Romero

Kapanadze coil as in the green box video
Check the folowing links to understand more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMYheYykNB8&feature=fvwrel

Hello Romereo,
was busy day an night. Please have a look at my battery negative terminal. You see sulphur bleeding out although the terminal is tightly pressed in a plastic ring. This type of battery is a leak-proof dry-cell. Now the positive-terminal does not show any sign of detoriation.
So, what is going on here ? Before I go into this you should build  a hf--current-clampmeter

A friend of mine suggested to build a selfmade hf-current-clampmeter, consiting of a 1 or 1.4 inch ferrit-ring core ( any type will do it)  with 12 to 16 windings on it. The two ends of these windings are connected to a 1 Ohm-resistor ( I used a 0.1 ohm) , so the coil is almost shorted and does not have any self-resonance. The picture attached is from my friend. He obviously used a higher value for the resistors as you can see form the sensitivity the wrote on the tag. Now you connect your probe ( 1:10) across the resistor, adjust your scope to 10 mV and lead the + cable from an adjustable DC-powersupply right through the middle this core ( only one loop, as seen on the pic : brown upper horizontal cable) and connect this to the negative terminal of the supply ( supply is shorted , current must be limited to 1 Amp ) Now you switch on the 1 A currrent ( fast ) and watch the voltage jump on your scope, register and remember the the units of the voltage jump. You now know what a 1 Amp-Puls  looks like ( calibration can be done either with your software or by modfying the restistor ).

The power-supply I use is a switched-mode dc-supply where the two terminals can either run free-wheeling ( negative is not connected to ground) or negative connected to ground.
Now, this here is important : Only run in free-wheeling mode.
I then was leading the current through the core ( two succeding experiments) in both directions. The result was as expected:  In one direction -> postive jump, the other direction -> negative jump.

Not before you have done this will you understand the next step I took which I will describe in a later post.

Questions ?

regards
eagle

@eagle
the reason can also be a loose contact on the negative terminal, a crack in the plastic around the terminal caused by overcharging...

Romero

Hi Romero,

one possibility...but after closer examination there is no crack.. it is fitted very tight and it does not bleed if I do not fire the sparkgap for some time but load it normally. The question is : why not the positive terminal ? in this circuit the negative terminal is directly connected to the negative side of the HV-capacitor. This is where I see a reason which I have to verify. I saw positve current-pulses everywhere even at the negative terminal and even if I let the current run through the ring-core from the opposite side. Next thing to do is to exclude capacitive coupling which is the advice given by my friend. He said that even with using the ring-clamp-meter I must have a capacitive coupling which causes a positive puls in all directions. So I have to shield the current-path by a faraday-cage-like device. Lot of work.

Another strange thing happens but only if I use 2 round steel-plates - non magnetic and 1 inch in diameter - as a sparkgap. The spark gets very strong at a certain distance of the plates - 1.5 to 2 mm - ...and then the loadcycle and successive firering of the spark gets longer and longer after each spark..until the firering of the spg stops completly.. only the oscillation of 20 Khz is continuing not being able to load the hv-capacitor any more. During this process the voltage of the battery is almost stable and the current increases from 700 mA to 800 mA. This is an indication that the spacial area between the steel-plates is full of charge-carriers leading to a short-current ..kind of a plasma.
This is the reason why Don Smith explained in one of his videos why he placed an additional electrode in the middle of the sparkgap connected to ground.. "in order to control the voltage" an explanation which is distracting the attention of the viewer from a possible key-point in his system
presented in this vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW265RlFEeQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW265RlFEeQ)

Regards

eagle

Hi Romero

May I ask how to get the trumpet wave form from a gen coil? (just like you did with your spining rotor)
Thank you!

Quote from: mariuscivic on February 14, 2012, 12:43:16 PM
Hi Romero

May I ask how to get the trumpet wave form from a gen coil? (just like you did with your spining rotor)
Thank you!

This is the actual schematic used in my last video.

Romero

Possible Kapanadze working schematic.

Quote from: Romero on February 15, 2012, 04:24:42 PM
Possible Kapanadze working schematic.

Interesting low voltage circuit ,  have you had a chance to test the coil design? 

Quote from: nightwind on February 16, 2012, 01:50:24 AM

Quote from: Romero on February 15, 2012, 04:24:42 PM
Possible Kapanadze working schematic.

Interesting low voltage circuit ,  have you had a chance to test the coil design?

is not that low, 300volt DC after the bridge.I am testing it now and the results are good.I need more time before I will do a video, the second driver transistor is running quite hot after  few minutes, I need to change it...
Below is a picture with it as now, just few changes from the schematic posted before.

Quote from: Romero on February 16, 2012, 08:31:06 AM

Quote from: nightwind on February 16, 2012, 01:50:24 AM

Quote from: Romero on February 15, 2012, 04:24:42 PM
Possible Kapanadze working schematic.

Interesting low voltage circuit ,  have you had a chance to test the coil design?

is not that low, 300volt DC after the bridge.I am testing it now and the results are good.I need more time before I will do a video, the second driver transistor is running quite hot after  few minutes, I need to change it...
Below is a picture with it as now, just few changes from the schematic posted before.

Typically in the electrical power industry (in US), anything below 600V is considered low voltage.  Of course, 300VDC is considered high voltage in the solid-state world and is LETHAL.  DC is unforgiving, be careful.
Good Luck

Hello,

please take notice of this calculation I placed here :
Reply #10723[/b]]http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/10710/
Reply #10723
(http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/10710/%3Cbr%20/%3E%5Bb)

This is solid ground

eagle

Quote from: eagle on February 17, 2012, 01:27:17 AM
Hello,

please take notice of this calculation I placed here :
Reply #10723[/b]]http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/10710/
Reply #10723
(http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/10710/%3Cbr%20/%3E%5Bb)

This is solid ground

eagle

very interesting, I need to read it few more times to understand it properly.

Romero

Hello, Im energia9, glad to be part of a constructive creative site

here is something that we might find helpful

Hi Romero,
How to make nice damped waves we know already very well - just my stupid question ... how to extract the energy from the system?
I stumbled over the Casimir effect. Fabrizio Pinto describes it in his patents and I have a suspicion that TK uses this effect on his device too. The heavy copper tube coil could be a vacuum tube. On his little unit we have also the thick winding.
It's somehow painfully how we collect this puzzle together.
BR
Tony

Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2012, 11:38:41 AM
Hi Romero,
How to make nice damped waves we know already very well - just my stupid question ... how to extract the energy from the system?
I stumbled over the Casimir effect. Fabrizio Pinto describes it in his patents and I have a suspicion that TK uses this effect on his device too. The heavy copper tube coil could be a vacuum tube. On his little unit we have also the thick winding.
It's somehow painfully how we collect this puzzle together.
BR
Tony

It looks so simple and because of that almost impossible to be replicated, at least we know it works and that gives us strenght. We will get there for sure with more experiments... I am only wondering if these devices will not generate all sort of radiations, some of my old experiments confirm that.
I am still not fully recovered after my last exposure to lots of Ozone, I had to go back to my home country to get treatment as here in UK they told me I have no problem... usual for NHS in UK, might get a big SORRY from them after you are dead.


Romero

I have just seen the latest videos with Tariel Kapanadze in the main distribution, he is my star together with Tesla.
Tariel  proves again to everyone that anything is possible. I am amazed of all these devices he built, he has the power to change the world in many ways and I hope he will as soon is possible. In the mean time we must continue our research.

Regards to all and I salute you Tariel!

Romero

Quote from: trace_ru on February 18, 2012, 12:53:30 AM
"...we must continue our research.."

A research by definition is ".. systematic investigation into and study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions"
It looks to me more like wandering in the dark than a research so far.

As far as Kapanadze is concerned, I, personally, am not expecting anything from him. He's had plenty of time to come up with some sort of a commercial product. All we see is shaky youtube videos and nothing else. Where are working installations or independent verification?

Real results (like Anrea Rossi's LENR) have been independently checked and there are working commercial installations. Why not Kapanadze's? Is he a star or a crook? Occam's razor here is a clear cut.

----

inventors like Andreea Rossi brings no benefit to people, there will still be huge bills to be paid by the consumers, we need independent devices for everyone.If big corporates are involved then nothing good for us.
If I will be Kapanadze I might not release the info to all public too, first because this can be used against people and second is that some people don't deserve this great power, I am sure he has good reasons to keep it secret.
He said that will be released to people and I believe he will very soon, the time is running out and Tariel knows that.
Kapanadze has already sold many devices to public also he has a group of people who knows how to build this power generators.
I don't believe you can even consider him as being a crook, he is my star a great one...

Romero

I dont know wheter i should post this video here, but this video shares why we should share everything.
peace

Quote from: energia9 on February 17, 2012, 09:42:10 AM
Hello, Im energia9, glad to be part of a constructive creative site

here is something that we might find helpful

Puthoff ?? This guy is a NSA-Agent. Look here and move a bit down to "Tuesday, 29 November 1966"
an see the picture on teh right.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100330151001/http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/rvtimeline/index.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20100330151001/http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/rvtimeline/index.html)
Maybe he was involved in the sudden death ?

eagle

[
Puthoff ?? This guy is a NSA-Agent. Look here and move a bit down to "Tuesday, 29 November 1966"
an see the picture on teh right.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100330151001/http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/rvtimeline/index.html (http://web.archive.org/web/20100330151001/http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/rvtimeline/index.html)
Maybe he was involved in the sudden death ?

eagle
[/quote]

I met Hal Puthoff back in the mid 1990s.  He has a company in Austin, Tx.  Puthoff focuses a lot of his research into the esoteric & paranormal sciences.  In his field of work,  most of his funding comes from the government agencies (including NSA) because few private firms would invest in what he does.  :)

Reading other forums I found that most of the people are seing wrong the components in the old mechanical generator.
Below is a picture that shows that the shaft with 2 discs is the motor and not the generator.
People are speculating that there is a hidden battery... let's assume it is, how do you make that shaft with discs to rotate?
The secret is that unknown type of motor and no battery hidden for sure. The circuit running the device has only few components.

Hi Romero, I had one of Kapanadze generators, I bought it few years back and someone from Germany bought it from me after.
He will try to reproduce it and make the plans public as soon he will crack it.

MM

Quote from: Mehmet on February 23, 2012, 01:42:27 AM
Hi Romero, I had one of Kapanadze generators, I bought it few years back and someone from Germany bought it from me after.
He will try to reproduce it and make the plans public as soon he will crack it.

MM

how and where did you get it from?
how is that possible
i you are telling truth make sure to contact him and post a picture and video of the device and show contents of the device.

Quote from: energia9 on February 23, 2012, 10:59:29 AM

Quote from: Mehmet on February 23, 2012, 01:42:27 AM
Hi Romero, I had one of Kapanadze generators, I bought it few years back and someone from Germany bought it from me after.
He will try to reproduce it and make the plans public as soon he will crack it.

MM

how and where did you get it from?
how is that possible
i you are telling truth make sure to contact him and post a picture and video of the device and show contents of the device.

If i show the pictures then he will know who I am and I don't want this, not before the person who has it now will manage to make a copy. I am not the only one who has one of his generators. I don't understand why he stopped selling them, he could have had lots of money and have a better life. What I can say is that this is the most simple generator I have ever seen.

MM

Quote from: Mehmet on February 23, 2012, 12:14:56 PM

Quote from: energia9 on February 23, 2012, 10:59:29 AM

Quote from: Mehmet on February 23, 2012, 01:42:27 AM
Hi Romero, I had one of Kapanadze generators, I bought it few years back and someone from Germany bought it from me after.
He will try to reproduce it and make the plans public as soon he will crack it.

MM

how and where did you get it from?
how is that possible
i you are telling truth make sure to contact him and post a picture and video of the device and show contents of the device.

If i show the pictures then he will know who I am and I don't want this, not before the person who has it now will manage to make a copy. I am not the only one who has one of his generators. I don't understand why he stopped selling them, he could have had lots of money and have a better life. What I can say is that this is the most simple generator I have ever seen.

MM

Mehmet i respect, i understand what your concern is, but if you owned it once and you made videos and pictures of inside and workings,  he has no right to say anything about it, because he got it from you and he can thank YOU for the first place..
What im asking for, is a little help in my experiment, 
if you know please help, help is a big step in the process of transformation to a better loving world.
and i have a few questions if you know answers.
what principle does it use?
Does it use High voltage or Low voltage?
is the signal going straight to the coil or a signal is amplified and transformed into high voltage through a flyback or somesort?

your help is appreciated.

Welcome Mehmet, please check your messages...

Romero

@Mehmet,

somehow your statements do not make sense:

Why did you sell it ?
You say that it is the most simple generator you have ever seen. This sentence suggests that you have understood how it worked. If I would have a simple generator and know the principle why would I sell it to another party ?
So this tells me that in effect the generator was not working..or you were not able to make it working.. which tells me that your statement "most simple generator.." only applies to the construction not to a functional working machine. many simple constructions exists ..in form of fake-models.

Regards

eagle

Romero i've got your message now.

energia- is not about Tariel, he is ok, good person. I am not too good to understand how this one works, my son opened and had a look and he said there is high voltage combined with low voltage and very low frequency. I live in Turkey and here are few other people who are the owners of this type of generator. My friend from Germany is good to undestand how it works and he paid me many times more the money I paid Tariel. If he can get it replicated he will return it back to me free of charge.
I have lots of pictures and videos, with Tariel too but I will release when my friend from Germany will  tell me.

MM

Quote from: eagle on February 23, 2012, 03:16:58 PM
@Mehmet,

somehow your statements do not make sense:

Why did you sell it ?
You say that it is the most simple generator you have ever seen. This sentence suggests that you have understood how it worked. If I would have a simple generator and know the principle why would I sell it to another party ?
So this tells me that in effect the generator was not working..or you were not able to make it working.. which tells me that your statement "most simple generator.." only applies to the construction not to a functional working machine. many simple constructions exists ..in form of fake-models.

Regards

eagle

the generator looked simple and all other people who saw it said the same but everyone said it is impossible to work like that but it did. I was expecting lots of circuits but if fact is only 2 circuit boards with not many components on them.
I sell it not for the money but because I want it copied and make sure the technology will not be lost. I tried to get more  generators from Tariel but he refused to build more. I will like Tariel to explain it and get the benefit from it but lately no more contact.
I have posted here just to let others know that the schematic will be released soon from other source if not coming from Tariel.
I will not continue to post or get into conflicts with people, believe or not is up to you.

MM

Quote from: Mehmet on February 23, 2012, 03:27:50 PM
Romero i've got your message now.

energia- is not about Tariel, he is ok, good person. I am not too good to understand how this one works, my son opened and had a look and he said there is high voltage combined with low voltage and very low frequency. I live in Turkey and here are few other people who are the owners of this type of generator. My friend from Germany is good to undestand how it works and he paid me many times more the money I paid Tariel. If he can get it replicated he will return it back to me free of charge.
I have lots of pictures and videos, with Tariel too but I will release when my friend from Germany will  tell me.

MM

i know tariel is good person bless tariel, and understand what you say.

i wouldnt even need schematic to replicate , i would only need the name of the two circuit boards and the job they perform, and im happy. happy anyways :D
thank you mehmet

Mehmet deleted the account and left the message that he will return when he will have good news.
I know he was telling the truth is not lying about it... he will keep me updated


Romero

may the universe bless mehmet

This link shows a real interesting schematic based on reactive power.There is a big potential with this one...

http://www.freeenergylt.narod2.ru/mustafa007/

Base unit:
1) Create a resonance in the LC circuit. In the circuit there is reactive power.
2) Remove the reactive power without affecting the resonant circuit. connection, as shown in the diagram allows you to remove the reactive power to the circuit without affecting the parameters of the serial LC circuit. When properly selected parameters of the coils and matching transformer at the output has an output up to 10 kW. Neither the direction of winding, no way of winding in no way affect the parameters. Important to a current transformer:


1) The primary coil is no more than one turn. Best version 0.5 turns.
2) current transformer to do on the ferrite
3) the overall mass should correspond to the reactive power in the circuit. Important to the LC circuit: 1) the best result. Reactance of the capacitance at the operating frequency must be equal to the reactance of inductance on the same frequency. 2) Inductance is best done in the air, so you can achieve more reactive power. 3) The currents in this circuit sooo big lead to take not less than 4 mm can be more 4) the capacity to do the composite. If you for example need 2 uF it must be composed of 20 pieces of 0.1 uF. This is done for the distribution of flowing currents. Anything else you see in the video is tinsel.
....................

Magnetic Amplifier.
http://underservice.org/files/magnetic_amplifiers.pdf

More Kapanadze videos.

erf, all videos has been deleted :(

too bad... there are copies of them already

Quote from: Romero on October 15, 2011, 09:38:14 PM
Recently Stivep from OU.com has released a video with a succesful replication.

Romero when i saw your vid i took a deep breath of relief. Youre knowledgeable and right minded.
Your schematic of the 60w lamp is unclear. Is your ht transformer grounded or just the casing ?
What happens if you take the wire away at that output that goes to the ht transfo ?

Hi Highway,

I am not sure what circuit you are reffering to...?  the experiment in the video is not mine.

Romero

I mean the circuit in the video. Is that from Stivep ? Do you know this person and have you made a replica already ?
Let us do one project at the time instead of five times something unknown.

Quote from: Highway on March 10, 2012, 10:41:27 AM
I mean the circuit in the video. Is that from Stivep ? Do you know this person and have you made a replica already ?
Let us do one project at the time instead of five times something unknown.

Hi,

the one in the video belongs to stivep and you can get more info at overunity.com
I cannot stay with one project at the time, I am always trying different things then go back to older projects...  this is fun before anything else, no competition to see who wins the contest.

Regards,
Romero

I can help (a bit) in my humble opinion . Imagine Ismael Aviso ambient energy tapping circuit. It is 50% of complete Tariel device. Next 50% is already seen in the woopy,serge videos - special coil. Of course make a little twist here and there (try to remove ferrite core by understanding of role of those windings CW-CCW shorted)

There is one problem with all those devices....how can anybody patent a combination of patented methods even without explaining details  , just round diagrams like boxes in schematic !!!!?  :P :P :P  ;)  The 50% of Tariel patent is Tesla igniter patent ( and almost 100% of Ismael Aviso method )  :P :P :P   I don't blame them, this is the greed of others which
This world is really going to the back hole ! 8)


P.S. Just look at Ismael Aviso explanations in videos he posted. Battery , inverter, ambient collector, capacitors.

Hi forest and welcome,

There is no trouble for anyone to use Tesla patents now after so many years, as regarding the recent ones small modifications can make it look as a new idea.
One advice for replicators, while testing use at least 100w bulb or anything as load, have a load connected all the times.
Check the picture below, I have a feeling this is the type of the cable used for the coils in the videos from Turkey.

Regards,
Romero

Hi forest, welcome,
    With your brilliant ideas surely your a big help here.... ;D

hi Romero,
in my work I have been based largely on your work and  Vladimir's explanations

Vladimir says if we charge a capacitor one plate independently of the other as a separated capacitor, we have energy amplifcation becase the generator can't see the field inside the capacitor, so a simple Avramenko's plug is a free energy device

I tried replicate your simple self-charger circuit with 2 batterys and a fly-back, but I didn't have success, I also was afraid that my batterys died.

Now I have a 555 circuit conected to a 2n3055 that is conected to the flyback primary, the 555 is tunned to the max output of the flyback secondary (6kHz)

My imput is 18V 200mA, on Avramenko's plug I have a 3nF home made capacitor,
If I connect a spark plug on the capacitor plates I can have fast 4mm sparks
The other end of the flyback is connected to the ground

Now I know I have to collect this charge by sparking (abrupt discharge) it through anythink
I have many choices, a tesla coil, a reverse tesla coil, a condeceus, batterys like you...  with or without ferrite..

I would like know what is the best method
I think that like you and Wesley the condeceus is the best, and pickup with a simple coil

Other question, on your self-charger you have a resonante circuit on flyback the L3 and C2, and you discharge the C1 through it, Wesley seems to do the same think, it is crucial?

Thanks and congretulations by the amazing work,
Henriques

@cHenriques

using a 555 should be easy to get it to self charge, much better that using only one transistor.
The only problem you will have is that after a period of time the batteries will be damaged. I found that using supercapacitors in parallel with the batteries will reduce the risk of damaging the batteries.
L3 and C2 must resonate for best output but even if not resonating the self charge will still work.
Damping the capacitor back to the bateries at specific intervals will charge without affecting the input. This can be done using low voltage too.

Romero

OK, thanks

I can adjust my spark gap, so it's better sparking the batteries with more voltage - less frequency (larger spark length) or lesse voltage and more frequency (smaller spark length)??

If I want not demange my batteries how  can I collect the energy of the capacitor and use it on the load?

Is a conduces and a pickup coil the best choise?

best regards

Quote from: Romero on February 23, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
Mehmet deleted the account and left the message that he will return when he will have good news.
I know he was telling the truth is not lying about it... he will keep me updated


Romero

Hi

Any updates from Mehmet?

DonL

Quote from: dllabarre on April 14, 2012, 12:06:48 PM

Quote from: Romero on February 23, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
Mehmet deleted the account and left the message that he will return when he will have good news.
I know he was telling the truth is not lying about it... he will keep me updated


Romero

Hi

Any updates from Mehmet?

DonL

I have got one more message from him since he left but not very important.

Romero

Henriques, have you seen this one ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNmFN7WnAc#

It looks like your setup. Keep us posted.


Hyway.

Quote from: cHenriques on April 04, 2012, 03:22:56 PM
OK, thanks

I can adjust my spark gap, so it's better sparking the batteries with more voltage - less frequency (larger spark length) or lesse voltage and more frequency (smaller spark length)??

If I want not demange my batteries how  can I collect the energy of the capacitor and use it on the load?

Is a conduces and a pickup coil the best choise?

best regards

Hi Highway,
It don't seem like my circuit but is very very interesting, alf videos of this guy are amazing

Even now I will show you a circuit that I do using a lot of ideias and recent information of zilano
I still didn't construct this device.

Do you think that this can work?

thanks,
Henriques

Hallo Henriques. 

How many watts is the lamp you show in your schematic with the tesla coil ?

This schematic here is absolutely o.u.  Can you replicate this first ?

i was posting in the romero thread previously, wrong place, i found this now i will post here my experiments.
i will post my stuff so others can see what happens with different kind of coil variations and connections
i will start with my older ones that i have and have the latest tries on the bottom

So i tell a bit about all of them that i did so far

1st picture,  Interresting anomaly.
2nd & 4th pic, very efficient design, needs earth grounding
3rd pic very efficient transfer,  two secondaries are counter wound bifiliar coils,  worked well
5th pic , recent try,  transistors are cold at tuned frequency,   the lamp is lit brightly with 1 grounding too without spark gap,
connecting bulb from tesla coil to center tap of secondary, connecting the two side connections of the two secondaries and earth grounding to this center tap. earth grounding makes energy transfer more efficient, and lamp shines up even more ,
an accident happened when the lamp was only conected to earth ground and tried to vary the frequency,  i went up to 1.6 mhz where the lamp started blinking and my signal source blew..

@energia9
do you have a video with the circuit running?

Romero

Quote from: Romero on May 14, 2012, 01:35:31 PM
@energia9
do you have a video with the circuit running?

Romero

My Signal Source blew, i have to repair, or make a homemade one quick,  but i have made a video when the circuit was working,   
i have loaded two 15000 uf capacitors connected from 12v supply , then disconnected supply from caps and discharged that energy in the circuit to show  the energy conversion
(this is the last picture of the coil arrangement you saw in my previus post)

video

in this video the capacitor is discharged into the amplifier, where the signal from the frequency generator is boosted up
The Bulb you saw Lighting up to full brigtness for 1 sec is 15 watts, and one end is connected to the tesla coil the other end is connected to the secondaries center tap.  basicaly there is high voltage coming off from the tesla coil when the circuit is energized, and the bulb uses it.

i ll have to make videos as i go along the research, will post them here.
thx

Schematic suggestions.

Quote from: Romero on June 08, 2012, 10:00:33 PM
Schematic suggestions.

i tried too many coil types and connections,  none of them showed any specialty..  they are all the same. we are just modifying their LRC ,  therefore their resonant frequency...

which will not attract special anomaly inside the wires or anything like that!!



im playing with this now, i think this is the ultimate key!  oh yeh... many may have said they have the key,  but after trying out things for years everyone gets to understand, that there is no free energy flowing in from anywhere, in any type of high voltage Tesla kacher coil... nor any connection or configuration,
there is no vacuum energy or mysterious source...!
and this is normal,
I think Kapanadze did not find free energy, he just uses whats allready there!!
Every emmitted electron can be recollected in theory and added together with the primary source energy and be multiplied in short intervals of time.
Electromagnetic waves would not permit recollection without affecting the sender
Electrostatic energy does not slow down sender,  so every tuned coil gets excited without primary input would increase.
so we resend electrons what we allready sent...

more to come when i solve how to do the apparatus properly.

peace

Quote from: energia9 on June 09, 2012, 01:47:51 PM

Quote from: Romero on June 08, 2012, 10:00:33 PM
Schematic suggestions.

i tried too many coil types and connections,  none of them showed any specialty..  they are all the same. we are just modifying their LRC ,  therefore their resonant frequency...

which will not attract special anomaly inside the wires or anything like that!!



im playing with this now, i think this is the ultimate key!  oh yeh... many may have said they have the key,  but after trying out things for years everyone gets to understand, that there is no free energy flowing in from anywhere, in any type of high voltage Tesla kacher coil... nor any connection or configuration,
there is no vacuum energy or mysterious source...!
and this is normal,
I think Kapanadze did not find free energy, he just uses whats allready there!!
Every emmitted electron can be recollected in theory and added together with the primary source energy and be multiplied in short intervals of time.
Electromagnetic waves would not permit recollection without affecting the sender
Electrostatic energy does not slow down sender,  so every tuned coil gets excited without primary input would increase.
so we resend electrons what we allready sent...

more to come when i solve how to do the apparatus properly.

peace

If the coils are in resonance, the input should not be affected by the output, that's what i believe is the key to OU!
hope to see more from you...

Thank you for sharing energia9

hello
allready have 4 identical T coils , couple of more im making , abt 5 more of the same
each 50 cm long wound with 0.5mm wire
made a quick winder from wood, works perfect.
i can make 1 coil in abt 20 minutes :)

check the pictures, i share my way of approach,  might sound crazy to some,  but for me it is logical answer and while others post fake schematics on other forums and trying to copy,
i try to approach this way..
might help all too
thx

in the calculations below, this is just to show you the logic behind my idea, of course there is no such thing as half electron, but im trying to find a way  why kapanadze says stabilizing field between coils.
possibly this is how it all works. 
As kapandze already said if someone try to approach it by thinking it must be complicated he wont suceed.
he said you must think simple,  as well as donald smith said so too.

Donald smith says that this is some kind of multipactor effect and says that can work in some kind of vacuum tube aswell he mentioned, 
and also that tube was also mentioned in teslas car.. where he had only tubes and no tesla coils. 
but it works with tesla coils too
im going down the tesla coil way.. :)

@energia9
i've done the experiment with 4 receivers and loses are very high if we rely on magnetic or inductive transfer.
As we go higher in frequency the loses are reduced and if we reach radio frequency we don't have effect back to the source.

Romero

Quote from: Romero on June 12, 2012, 12:31:43 AM
@energia9
i've done the experiment with 4 receivers and loses are very high if we rely on magnetic or inductive transfer.
As we go higher in frequency the loses are reduced and if we reach radio frequency we don't have effect back to the source.

Romero

yeah magnetic or inductive is no good...
RF electrostatic what we are looking for. .
and four basic cosmic energy receiver setup from tesla, except there is a tuned tesla coil before the capacitor
and circuit controller is a spark gap.
also.. im not saddened about the fact that it has losses...  50 percent efficiency is well enough for me if my theory is correct...:)
free energy is not in transfer of energy...  but recollection and reboostion...

i hope to have somebody else working along with me with this project . . .

this is very simple stuff..  just like tariel said think simple

Quote from: energia9 on June 12, 2012, 09:18:28 AM

Quote from: Romero on June 12, 2012, 12:31:43 AM
@energia9
i've done the experiment with 4 receivers and loses are very high if we rely on magnetic or inductive transfer.
As we go higher in frequency the loses are reduced and if we reach radio frequency we don't have effect back to the source.

Romero

yeah magnetic or inductive is no good...
RF electrostatic what we are looking for. .
and four basic cosmic energy receiver setup from tesla, except there is a tuned tesla coil before the capacitor
and circuit controller is a spark gap.
also.. im not saddened about the fact that it has losses...  50 percent efficiency is well enough for me if my theory is correct...:)
free energy is not in transfer of energy...  but recollection and reboostion...

i hope to have somebody else working along with me with this project . . .

this is very simple stuff..  just like tariel said think simple

the device is the most simple thing... if you understand standing waves you will be able to build a device like that in max 2 hours

Quote from: Romero on June 12, 2012, 03:34:38 PM

Quote from: energia9 on June 12, 2012, 09:18:28 AM

Quote from: Romero on June 12, 2012, 12:31:43 AM
@energia9
i've done the experiment with 4 receivers and loses are very high if we rely on magnetic or inductive transfer.
As we go higher in frequency the loses are reduced and if we reach radio frequency we don't have effect back to the source.

Romero

yeah magnetic or inductive is no good...
RF electrostatic what we are looking for. .
and four basic cosmic energy receiver setup from tesla, except there is a tuned tesla coil before the capacitor
and circuit controller is a spark gap.
also.. im not saddened about the fact that it has losses...  50 percent efficiency is well enough for me if my theory is correct...:)
free energy is not in transfer of energy...  but recollection and reboostion...

i hope to have somebody else working along with me with this project . . .

this is very simple stuff..  just like tariel said think simple

the device is the most simple thing... if you understand standing waves you will be able to build a device like that in max 2 hours

I will try all possible, and may be if you have an idea how to create those standing waves can post something here, i will definately give a go with it with my tuned tesla coils..

I was thinking that i must send the signal and while i collect it with a receiver, i must dump that energy into a second tesla coil which is setup in the same way as the sender,  and sending the energy just back to the sender just a little bit after it sent it ,  so the two waves, the incoming and the outgoing waves are sort of colliding...
but will sand the ideas off a bit by the experiments :)
thanks...

@energia9
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_14/6.html

this is how I see it, I tottaly believe that this is the secret. I have been tested so many things based on this and every day I am more convinced that I am close but not yet.
Forget about number of turns in a device and start using lenght of wire.
Not everything you see in Kapanadze videos is there to help running the decice, many of them are to distract, I know that 1000000000% from a good source.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on June 12, 2012, 08:17:33 PM
@energia9
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_14/6.html

this is how I see it, I tottaly believe that this is the secret. I have been tested so many things based on this and every day I am more convinced that I am close but not yet.
Forget about number of turns in a device and start using lenght of wire.
Not everything you see in Kapanadze videos is there to help running the decice, many of them are to distract, I know that 1000000000% from a good source.

Regards,
Romero

you are most probably right!
i think in similar ways..
do you do experiments atm?
this or that mechanical device you were working with?
we defo gotta figure this kapanadze device out!!!

mechanical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOt-jLyQNG8&feature=plcp

patent 8,093,869

http://www.google.com/patents/US8093869?dq=8,093,869&ei=VxHYT4ykOYWA4gTs5P28Aw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBtsVvfZmg8&feature=plcp

Thank you @Wings and k4zep!
This is very helpful for people to understand the principle behind Kapanadze devices, just replace the rod core in these videos with the lenght of the wire used and desing a circuit to create a standing wave with optimal wave lenght for that lenght of wire, the rest is very simple.

Regards,
Romero

Quote from: energia9 on June 12, 2012, 10:19:10 PM

Quote from: Romero on June 12, 2012, 08:17:33 PM
@energia9
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_14/6.html

this is how I see it, I tottaly believe that this is the secret. I have been tested so many things based on this and every day I am more convinced that I am close but not yet.
Forget about number of turns in a device and start using lenght of wire.
Not everything you see in Kapanadze videos is there to help running the decice, many of them are to distract, I know that 1000000000% from a good source.

Regards,
Romero

you are most probably right!
i think in similar ways..
do you do experiments atm?
this or that mechanical device you were working with?
we defo gotta figure this kapanadze device out!!!

In one of Kapanadze videos we can see that we have lots of amps on the grounding cable, now people should think how is that possible or if it is possible with normal waves, must be standing waves or longitudinal waves.
In one of kapanadze pictures we can see that he is using measurements in lenght not in turns... and that is the correct way...
Relation between the primary and secondary is the key, if we have the formula he is using then you have the answer to all questions.
Anyone replicated the mechanical setup with 2 discs?
I believe that was one of the devices he had succesfuly built after trying to get antigravity he ended with that.

I have done some experiments based on that mechanical device and I had some scary results, many metal objects close to the experimenting area started to slowly move towards one side of the discs but I could also hear cracking noise everywhere arround... difficult to explain.


Regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on June 16, 2012, 02:08:41 PM

Quote from: energia9 on June 12, 2012, 10:19:10 PM

Quote from: Romero on June 12, 2012, 08:17:33 PM
@energia9
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_14/6.html

this is how I see it, I tottaly believe that this is the secret. I have been tested so many things based on this and every day I am more convinced that I am close but not yet.
Forget about number of turns in a device and start using lenght of wire.
Not everything you see in Kapanadze videos is there to help running the decice, many of them are to distract, I know that 1000000000% from a good source.

Regards,
Romero

you are most probably right!
i think in similar ways..
do you do experiments atm?
this or that mechanical device you were working with?
we defo gotta figure this kapanadze device out!!!

In one of Kapanadze videos we can see that we have lots of amps on the grounding cable, now people should think how is that possible or if it is possible with normal waves, must be standing waves or longitudinal waves.
In one of kapanadze pictures we can see that he is using measurements in lenght not in turns... and that is the correct way...
Relation between the primary and secondary is the key, if we have the formula he is using then you have the answer to all questions.
Anyone replicated the mechanical setup with 2 discs?
I believe that was one of the devices he had succesfuly built after trying to get antigravity he ended with that.

I have done some experiments based on that mechanical device and I had some scary results, many metal objects close to the experimenting area started to slowly move towards one side of the discs but I could also hear cracking noise everywhere arround... difficult to explain.


Regards,
Romero

if we consider using lenght instead of turns we might have different resonating frequency, why?

  i tried making tesla coils by lenght before by measuring the mass of the wire by 0.00grams.
i have made lots of tesla coils, and something i can tell is that if i have the same amount of weight therefore lenght ...
we have to wind with perfection so perfect otherwise our resonant frequency will be different,
every turn you make adds to its self inductance.     a missing turn from one of the tesla coils will mean different resonant frequency because of lower self inductance.

However because you say this..  for your favor,    i will make two identical tesla coils by exactly 0.00 weight!

i was playing with high voltage for two days again contionusly, there was the last coil that i was posting earlier, and something i found out is that two ferrite rod inserted into the center with space which have windings on the center and the wires being shorted decreses input power by 150 miliampers while my 15 watt bulb gets shinier at the same time, hardly visible to the naked eye but still.  There is just one spot where the bulb gets shinier and the current drops at the same time.
this might have something to do with SR device but im unsure,   im surely making it more efficient but far from overunity or anything..
Im allways moving on i dont like being stuck with one experiment.

@Energia9
You don't have to do it because I say so, I might be wrong but I did some experiments where few mm made a big difference.

Romero

Quote from: Romero on June 17, 2012, 12:05:39 PM
@Energia9
You don't have to do it because I say so, I might be wrong but I did some experiments where few mm made a big difference.

Romero

im not here to proove or disproove you, im here to help all :)

it is like 5 minute to make 3-4 identical small tesla coils for me :D  and i have lots of wire, so its easy!

Helpful for Tesla based replicators.

Quote from: Romero on June 18, 2012, 01:51:16 AM
Helpful for Tesla based replicators.

Thx a lot, cool vid

i made a pdf about my way of tesla free energy approach
anyone interrested dOwNlOaD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipactor_effect
http://home.earthlink.net/~jimlux/hv/multipact.htm  :)

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/free_energy/message/5971
http://journal.borderlands.com/1988/the-farnsworth-multipactor-tube/
read all of them you might thank me
:) :) :)

just what i have been saying in my pdf   
I know this is the way..

And Multipaction effect can be the reason why kapanadze works,
because multipaction effect might work between two HV HF Tesla coils too! :)
[Editor's Note: P.T. Farnsworth III told Eric Dollard that the multipactor tube and the Tesla coil were a marriage made in heaven! TB]   source journal.bordelands.com

in tesla coils  sender is the emmitter     the receiver is the collector.

also if tesla discovered multipaction effect first,  it was said that tesla used only vacuum tubes to generate power for his car.

This would be the alternative to the tesla coils which are big and heavy.
I think as Tesla discovered effect he developed it further to be a smaller device.

it is also interresting to note that Aluminium is a very interresting metal, Tesla was mentioning the same.!

Thank you @energia9  for your post, it is very interesting.
Soon I will post another experiment, I believe similar with Kapanadze, In my case more load will add less power it consumes.
''Resonance if maintained we can draw lots of power'' - most of the people found that very hard, in a standard system any load will change resonance unless we can have it to auto adjust resonance depending on the load, this is what I will try to show in my next video.

Romero

My new video..
And part1 for my way of Kapanadze device

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MpTeEP6zi0&feature=plcp
carefully read what i say on the end bit

thank you all
-------------------------

@Romero
''Resonance if maintained we can draw lots of power'' - most of the people found that very hard, in a standard system any load will change resonance unless we can have it to auto adjust resonance depending on the load, this is what I will try to show in my next video.


(http://www.transformerssigma.com/images/cvt-ferro-resonant-transformers.jpg)

you will need a neutralizing coil
this coil will cancel out harmonics and stabilize voltage also

simplified version
(http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02278.png)
you will need to adjust LC with meter

@energia9
Excellent video, well done. I recommend you not to use the laptop PSU , there is a leakage inside with all of them, connect meter on AC, one terminal on the minus terminal and the other terminal to the ground. Let me know if you have any voltage there. For these experiments is better to use a standard PSU, based on a normal transformer.

Best regards,
Romero

@energia9
regarding the resonance, that is the schematic I have approached in one of the devices, check the picture below.
Second picture is the output waveform from this device.

@Romero,
That's one big monster coil hehe ;D

@energia9
Thanks for sharing... ;)

Hi,

@all, Thanks for sharing and i have one question, do you use ferrite in the coil ?

Thanks and i have to test this ;).

Best Regards,

Quote from: Blacktail on June 20, 2012, 09:13:13 PM
Hi,

@all, Thanks for sharing and i have one question, do you use ferrite in the coil ?

Thanks and i have to test this ;).

Best Regards,

No ferrite in this large coil.

Romero

Does anyone know where can i get high voltage high capacitance oil paper can capacitors for cheap?

like 
5kv-10kv -- 10uf-30uf
non polarized!
i know they dont come that cheap
i tried ebay but....

Quote from: energia9 on June 21, 2012, 10:53:45 AM
Does anyone know where can i get high voltage high capacitance oil paper can capacitors for cheap?

like 
5kv-10kv -- 10uf-30uf
non polarized!
i know they dont come that cheap
i tried ebay but....

check this one here...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8UF-5KV-DC-OIL-PAPER-CAPACITOR-/190383737416?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c53c14a48

Quote from: Romero on June 21, 2012, 01:18:11 PM

Quote from: energia9 on June 21, 2012, 10:53:45 AM
Does anyone know where can i get high voltage high capacitance oil paper can capacitors for cheap?

like 
5kv-10kv -- 10uf-30uf
non polarized!
i know they dont come that cheap
i tried ebay but....

check this one here...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8UF-5KV-DC-OIL-PAPER-CAPACITOR-/190383737416?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c53c14a48

thx Romero
wooh and it is very expensive too

i will find a way to make my own high capacitance caps.
cant afford and would probably be throwing money out in the window.

im progressing well with my experiments and im starting to see why i need atleast 1 single HV high uF  condenser to accomplish tesla device...
will have my next video coming shortly about progress.
Peace

@energia9
you will spend much more to build it at home, high capacitance requires lots of plates...
Microwave capacitors are very good, check your local recycle centre, you can get them for almost nothing.

Romero

Quote from: Romero on June 21, 2012, 02:32:23 PM
@energia9
you will spend much more to build it at home, high capacitance requires lots of plates...
Microwave capacitors are very good, check your local recycle centre, you can get them for almost nothing.

Romero

@energia9
Yeah! I agree with Romero, also you can series or parallel them to get ur target voltage and capacitance... Series connection decreases uf value but doubles its voltage capacity and parallel connection adds up the uf value but voltage stays the same.. Am I right?...  :)
Good luck on your project!
Good day to All!

@Romero & crazycut

Great idea!  i almost forgot,  microwave oven capacitors. ooo yeeaa!! thanx :D

Quote from: crazycut06 on June 21, 2012, 02:53:37 PM

Quote from: Romero on June 21, 2012, 02:32:23 PM
@energia9
you will spend much more to build it at home, high capacitance requires lots of plates...
Microwave capacitors are very good, check your local recycle centre, you can get them for almost nothing.

Romero

@energia9
Yeah! I agree with Romero, also you can series or parallel them to get ur target voltage and capacitance... Series connection decreases uf value but doubles its voltage capacity and parallel connection adds up the uf value but voltage stays the same.. Am I right?...  :)
Good luck on your project!
Good day to All!

yes that's right ;)

progress
I have done tests yesterday with how much electrons i can recycle by making a diode bridge and connecting caps in series..
now , i measured time of discharge, possible current draw on the meter, and discharge strenght

i played around with 1 capacitor in my first tests. and it was quite weak. could barely light up a 100 watt lightbulb for a second by waiting 4 seconds
so i connected two more capacitors in series. so i have three now.
3x 450V 400uF
now what i noticed is no change on the meter , same as with first capacitor but i lit up  3x 100 w lightbulb to the same brightness as in first test.
and by waiting for 4 seconds my single 100 watt lightbulb lights up to full brightness for 1 second and takes another 0.5 to dimminish , it becomes so shiny that nearly burns out. the bulb becomes slightly warm too.
it takes 14 seconds to light up 3x 100 watt bulbs to full brightness, need to wear sunglasses in these tests:D
8)
now dont be confused that im trying to gain excess energy from capacitors or anything...
if you have read my Pdf that i published, you know what im trying to do ...

im satisfied with the amount of energy i can recycle with only a diode bridge and a coil which do not influence the input power significantly.
it is about 40% energy recovery from the slow moving electrons..
just as i calculated in my pdf
i will go onto more serious tests today.. this was just the precalculation.
peace

@energia9 - good results, just be careful with capacitors charged at that level, one touch and you will not be able to use your hands properly for a long time or worse....

Romero

@Romero
Thanks for the warning. I did warn everyone in my vid too.
i touched a fully loaded cap like this before, i could feel the currents going up to my neck.  its a shocking experience!
i also dont recommend anyone to play with this.  but if someone wants to follow these experiments.
WEAR GLOVES!!

@energia

Can you tell me the specs on your tesla coil?
What are you using for the tube? paper? pvc? other?
length of tube?
Diameter of tube?
Size of wire?
length of wire?

I want to put this together so I can play along with you guys.
I've always felt Kapanadze was a  tesla coil based device.

Thanks
DonL

Here in the first picture below we can see that the coils covered with black tape are caduceus windings, that was the reason to cover them with tape, to hide it. In that arrangement I believe that we have 2 devices using the same source, that will justify the number of coils comparing with the other older device where we can see 3 tesla coils and 3 'extra' coils.

This extra coil is of a great importance in relation with the secondary from the source (tesla coil).
What we see in the old Kapanadze videos is the extra coil, the resonator (tesla coil) is the big round tank...
Connection from the resonator is as Tesla described it in his magnifier coil, also Kapanadze said that in one of the videos.
Second picture shows my understanding on how to get power out using this arrangement.

@dllabarre - nice so see you arround!

Regards,
Romero

Waveforms during this evening experiments
Strange horizontal lines...

Romero,
strange waveform? It seems that its bursting from the middle outward, like a water hose sprayer. Cool!  :D

Quote from: dllabarre on June 24, 2012, 01:54:08 AM
@energia

Can you tell me the specs on your tesla coil?
What are you using for the tube? paper? pvc? other?
length of tube?
Diameter of tube?
Size of wire?
length of wire?

I want to put this together so I can play along with you guys.
I've always felt Kapanadze was a  tesla coil based device.

Thanks
DonL

Hey :)
nice to see you around
So
you can use any type of tube with any type of wire size or lenght,  you can easily calculate out the turns voltage ratio...
The rest....   Use a thick primary with minimum of 3-4 turns

I Found a good transistor for the kacher,  it is     F    144    E13009-2
this transistor is not getting damaged under any circumstances..   tried others which were damaged instantly because of the very high voltages
BUT
any transistor from 400 v rating will work and probz will do the job!

The 1 transistor driven tesla coil is a really good tool!
it self resonates for any coils self inductance
so no need for separate oscillator or amplifier.

good luck Dllbarre!!!

i will share all i can too :)

Thank you!!

What schematic are you using for your kacher?  I have like 3 or 4 downloaded.

Thanks again,
DonL

Quote from: dllabarre on June 25, 2012, 10:04:38 PM
Thank you!!

What schematic are you using for your kacher?  I have like 3 or 4 downloaded.

Thanks again,
DonL

hey.

:)

For my kacher experiments  I used D209L and BU508AF, both very good and hard to kill :)

Romero

BU508AF is a very good 1

I ordered ten BU508AF from Mouser.com and they arrived today, just in time for the weekend to play with.

DonL

Attached document includes schematic and details of the picture below.

Romero

Sorry, Romero for chiming in. I realized you are trying thyristors for your circuit in order to harvest higher power output. But the SCRs are very low frequency switching components--at most a few KHz, I think. May I suggest you to consider using MCTs (MOS Controlled Thyristors), and IGCTs (Integrated Gate Commutated Thyristors)?
MCT can reach very high switching frequencies, and IGCT can switch very high voltages (10KV) and current densities (thousands of Amps).
Since they are quite new in the market, Mouser or Farnell do not stock them, therefore they are only available through whole sale sites online.
MCTs nomenclature begins with "MCT", and IGCTs are mainly manufactured by ABB AG, the Swiss industrial giant.
Hope my post be useful for you. And good work, Romero.

Quote from: aaron5120 on June 30, 2012, 07:27:48 PM
Sorry, Romero for chiming in. I realized you are trying thyristors for your circuit in order to harvest higher power output. But the SCRs are very low frequency switching components--at most a few KHz, I think. May I suggest you to consider using MCTs (MOS Controlled Thyristors), and IGCTs (Integrated Gate Commutated Thyristors)?
MCT can reach very high switching frequencies, and IGCT can switch very high voltages (10KV) and current densities (thousands of Amps).
Since they are quite new in the market, Mouser or Farnell do not stock them, therefore they are only available through whole sale sites online.
MCTs nomenclature begins with "MCT", and IGCTs are mainly manufactured by ABB AG, the Swiss industrial giant.
Hope my post be useful for you. And good work, Romero.

Hi,
Thank you for your info .
I don't need fast switching, my experiment is based on low frequency.
I will have a look to see MCT's details.

Best regards,
Romero

Coils used in the recent experiments.

Coils and Thyristors used.

Quote from: Romero on June 29, 2012, 03:06:56 PM
Attached document includes schematic and details of the picture below.

Romero

Did you  tried to loop the output  to the input  to make it self runner without any battery or power source at the input ( how you have done with the muller motor replication )?

CAn you please give us more details about COP of your device? How many times was amplified the energy at the output of the device in comparison with the input ?



Regards
Mihai

Quote from: sinergicus on July 03, 2012, 09:08:46 PM

Quote from: Romero on June 29, 2012, 03:06:56 PM
Attached document includes schematic and details of the picture below.

Romero

Did you  tried to loop the output  to the input  to make it self runner without any battery or power source at the input ( how you have done with the muller motor replication )?

CAn you please give us more details about COP of your device? How many times was amplified the energy at the output of the device in comparison with the input ?



Regards
Mihai

Al I can do is to show and post my ideas, as for a self runner is up to everyone to experiment and find or show it running, I am not going to repeat the same mistake.

Very important for people is to realise that every Kapanadze device has one hidden 'ingredient' highly available and very cheap, you can even get it free... without it all those big coils are nothing, acting as normal transformers.


People are concentrating too much to build and replicate those coils shown in those videos and not thinking about the source of the energy.

Most of the forums are full of clever people but all they do is fighting each other instead of working together, I mean really working and stop talking.

Best regards,
Romero

I hope these pictures will enlighten everyone.
Second picture shows the ingredient that makes a huge difference in attracting particles towards capacitor plates, I am using it as dielectric in the copper plates capacitor

Pictures with Kapanadze devices where polystyrene or foam is visible.
http://jap.aip.org/resource/1/japiau/v22/i9/p1176_s1?isAuthorized=no

@ Romero,
Why did he use that? polystyrene, whats the purpose?

Quote from: crazycut06 on July 06, 2012, 11:30:24 AM
@ Romero,
Why did he use that? polystyrene, whats the purpose?

go back to my previous post and check that link, that is only informative, unless you do experiments yourself it will be hard to understand what I mean.
Such a capacitor will suck particles from the ambient very easy, also discharging this type of capacitor shows some different type of energy. I am not a scientist, all I do is trying anything will cross my mind.
For initial experimenting I used 2 identical copper sheet and different types of dielectric.When I tried polystyrene I've got results I never had with other materials.
Shorting a capacitor like this shows results I never seen before. Strange things I've seen in my experiments where shorting was involved...

Regards,
Romero

Ok, seems like it helped TK get the OU power he needed, but in his solid state devices i don't see any evidence that he uses this type of capacitor... or i'm not looking deeply....

Quote from: crazycut06 on July 06, 2012, 01:41:49 PM
Ok, seems like it helped TK get the OU power he needed, but in his solid state devices i don't see any evidence that he uses this type of capacitor... or i'm not looking deeply....

It is possible to be inside the coils or he is using a different method. I believe that you or anyone will be happy to replicate at least on of he's work. Don't forget that a gas can do similar results, vacuum capacitors are behaving different than normal ones. I have experimented behaviour of vacuum caps too. I don't have a picture available but I will show you what I mean.

I work in construction, the other day a company sprayed foam on a roof, if you walked across the roof and touched the aluminum ladder that was grounded you would get a really good shock, it reminded me of the large tpu that was cut in halve that had foam inside in SM video's.

Quote from: Romero on July 06, 2012, 11:55:12 AM
For initial experimenting I used 2 identical copper sheet and different types of dielectric.When I tried polystyrene I've got results I never had with other materials.
Shorting a capacitor like this shows results I never seen before. Strange things I've seen in my experiments where shorting was involved...

Regards,
Romero

Romero

I check and I don't have any polystyrene so I have to get a piece.

What I did do was use Styrofoam.  I had a piece 1.5" think and I cut it a little larger than my copper plates which are 3"x4".
I just applied 12v DC and it charged to only 20 milli-volt so it doesn't charge up too good.
But the strange thing I noticed was when I stopped charging the plates the voltage started to rise up to 32 milli-volts all by itself.
So it appears to have been pulling energy in from some place else.

Now I have to get some polystyrene tomorrow!

DonL

@dllabarre
you must use higher voltage to see what I mean.
Another critical thing is how to deal with it.

Example in simple words: - one pulse to charge the capacitor then discharge. If multiple pulses are used to charge it then the battle is lost. Most of the people are waiting to charge a large capacitor then discharge, that is totally wrong, the biggest mistake.
The amplification is done using small amounts of extra particles acumulated after each pulse at very high rate.

Best solution is to use AC as the source of high frequency as Tesla did, without any diodes and use 2 pulses in a cycle.
It can be done with dc too but I found it much better and simpler with AC.

Best regards,
Romero

Quote from: Romero on July 10, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
@dllabarre
you must use higher voltage to see what I mean.
Another critical thing is how to deal with it.

Example in simple words: - one pulse to charge the capacitor then discharge. If multiple pulses are used to charge it then the battle is lost. Most of the people are waiting to charge a large capacitor then discharge, that is totally wrong, the biggest mistake.
The amplification is done using small amounts of extra particles acumulated after each pulse at very high rate.

Best solution is to use AC as the source of high frequency as Tesla did, without any diodes and use 2 pulses in a cycle.
It can be done with dc too but I found it much better and simpler with AC.

Best regards,
Romero

I saw the increase in voltage after removing the charge.  The voltage went up for 10-15 seconds, then peaked and started to go down.

I tried 6kv AC but more than just 1 pulse cycle.

What freq do you consider HF?  1kHz from NST or higher?
What is the voltage on your source?
What voltage does your capacitor charge to?
What circuit are you using to pulse/discharge the capacitor?

Sorry for so many questions but I want to replicate as close as possible what you're doing for verification.

Thank you,
DonL

Quote from: dllabarre on July 11, 2012, 12:50:35 AM

Quote from: Romero on July 10, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
@dllabarre
you must use higher voltage to see what I mean.
Another critical thing is how to deal with it.

Example in simple words: - one pulse to charge the capacitor then discharge. If multiple pulses are used to charge it then the battle is lost. Most of the people are waiting to charge a large capacitor then discharge, that is totally wrong, the biggest mistake.
The amplification is done using small amounts of extra particles acumulated after each pulse at very high rate.

Best solution is to use AC as the source of high frequency as Tesla did, without any diodes and use 2 pulses in a cycle.
It can be done with dc too but I found it much better and simpler with AC.

Best regards,
Romero

I saw the increase in voltage after removing the charge.  The voltage went up for 10-15 seconds, then peaked and started to go down.

I tried 6kv AC but more than just 1 pulse cycle.

What freq do you consider HF?  1kHz from NST or higher?
What is the voltage on your source?
What voltage does your capacitor charge to?
What circuit are you using to pulse/discharge the capacitor?

Sorry for so many questions but I want to replicate as close as possible what you're doing for verification.

Thank you,
DonL

I am not using any NST or flyback transformer, only a small tesla coil running at 245kHz with an output of approx 700volts
I have been tested lots of homemade capacitors and the best charge for one pulse is about 1200 volts.
I could not do it with normal capacitors but it worked with similar results using a vacuum capacitor, check picture below.
I cannot release any circuit as I don't wanna create confusion and critics, it seems that I am very good in attracting enemies, I am still getting lots of emails, some of them are very funny :)
Circuit is simple, all you need is to understand how to make it discharge at the peak of the wave.
You damp the capacitor charge and create a short at the same time... short again:)
It is hard to do it without a scope...

I am not sure you read Avramenko full patent, most of the people are using 2 diodes... but that is not what he meant. Single wire power transmission is possible and not only few watts and it can be done without diodes, only coils and capacitors.
This is just to make more clear how that works, might be useful somewhere.


Romero

Quote from: Romero on July 10, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
@dllabarre

I am not sure you read Avramenko full patent, most of the people are using 2 diodes... but that is not what he meant. Single wire power transmission is possible and not only few watts and it can be done without diodes, only coils and capacitors.
This is just to make more clear how that works, might be useful somewhere.

Romero

Yes I saw the full patent. Strange how almost everyone uses the 2 diode schematic.

Thank you,
DonL

Kapanadze Aquarium 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL9DA5B09011711655&v=-4L0w56pa60&feature=player_detailpage

notice the position of the spark gap in relation to the coil, does boosting the bloch wall come to mind  ;)

Just f0r fun...

Quote from: Romero on September 12, 2012, 11:40:20 PM
Just f0r fun...

Little more detail please, Garry

Quote from: garrym on September 14, 2012, 09:23:23 AM

Quote from: Romero on September 12, 2012, 11:40:20 PM
Just f0r fun...

Little more detail please, Garry

never tested that one, just one ideea...

Romero

Romero,

Just an idea is exactly what is abuzz on OU Kapa thread!

Garry

According to a private source Kapanadze can build a basic device capable to run rezistive loads without any scope or instrument to measure frequency. One simple device capable to power  from 2-5 kW can be built in only few hours.
Measurements are made in lenght of wire. The 50hz comes from the inverter, any inverter and the high voltage can be any from 3kv and up. Frequency of the high voltage is not critical and can be adjusted while in operation for best results.
High voltage is used only to create disturbance alowing the machine to connect to the 'unknown' source.
One single spark with high voltage keeps the machine operating few seconds.
People should pay attention to how to connect and use the Live and Neutral comming from the inverter, this is the key.

Regards,
Romero

..

I believe the comments made by Romero are indeed worth to be studied with more detail. There are corroborative experimental results reported by fellow experimenters from energetic forum.com with regard to these areas. First, the importance of a very good grounding. A large surface area, and a good conduction with the dirt around are essential. It seems that electrons are drawn into the circuit trying to overcome the imbalance created by the circuit.
Second, the spark gap is the gateway of the unknown energy source. The guys do have problems with the durability (useful life) of the spark gap, when operating in the KWatt ranges. They have to be replaced very often, due to deterioration of the electrodes.
The HV potential,after the spark gap route, when converted again into LV high current potenial, allows huge amounts of electrons to be drawn into the circuit from the gound, thus creating the OU phenomenon.
A simplified circuit was provided by someone in the Eric Dollard thread in the energetic froum, which was destined for the exploration of the above mentioned phenomenons.

Quote from: aaron5120 on October 05, 2012, 04:30:39 AM
I believe the comments made by Romero are indeed worth to be studied with more detail. There are corroborative experimental results reported by fellow experimenters from energetic forum.com with regard to these areas. First, the importance of a very good grounding. A large surface area, and a good conduction with the dirt around are essential. It seems that electrons are drawn into the circuit trying to overcome the imbalance created by the circuit.
Second, the spark gap is the gateway of the unknown energy source. The guys do have problems with the durability (useful life) of the spark gap, when operating in the KWatt ranges. They have to be replaced very often, due to deterioration of the electrodes.
The HV potential,after the spark gap route, when converted again into LV high current potenial, allows huge amounts of electrons to be drawn into the circuit from the gound, thus creating the OU phenomenon.
A simplified circuit was provided by someone in the Eric Dollard thread in the energetic froum, which was destined for the exploration of the above mentioned phenomenons.

I am still hopping that someone will at least try before negating every new  ideea.
I am getting messages where people are arguing with me just because I am posting all these...

Romero

Has anyone seen this ?????

http://youtu.be/ee4Ab3w2hl8

Quote from: Romero on February 18, 2012, 01:21:15 AM

If I will be Kapanadze I might not release the info to all public too, first because this can be used against people and second is that some people don't deserve this great power, I am sure he has good reasons to keep it secret.

Romero

If this is true Romero then why are we here ??  This means that you will steer against our progress. So why all this trouble ?

Quote from: Highway on October 12, 2012, 06:39:13 PM

Quote from: Romero on February 18, 2012, 01:21:15 AM

If I will be Kapanadze I might not release the info to all public too, first because this can be used against people and second is that some people don't deserve this great power, I am sure he has good reasons to keep it secret.

Romero

If this is true Romero then why are we here ??  This means that you will steer against our progress. So why all this trouble ?

we are all here for the same reason but not to judge Kapanadze or other people. There is always a reason in our actions.

Romero

Romero i admire your job here.  Remember the Tesla car with the box ?

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF00efOgTCM&feature=player_embedded

Keep is simple it is only 1900's technology. ::)

Quote from: Highway on October 14, 2012, 09:56:39 AM
Romero i admire your job here.  Remember the Tesla car with the box ?

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF00efOgTCM&feature=player_embedded

Keep is simple it is only 1900's technology. ::)

I managed to replicate another experiment from WITTS but not the one in your link.
Check the link here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFu-s6ZmGyE


Romero

Quote from: Romero on October 14, 2012, 02:51:42 PM

Quote from: Highway on October 14, 2012, 09:56:39 AM
Romero i admire your job here.  Remember the Tesla car with the box ?

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF00efOgTCM&feature=player_embedded

Keep is simple it is only 1900's technology. ::)

I managed to replicate another experiment from WITTS but not the one in your link.
Check the link here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFu-s6ZmGyE


Romero

Hi Romero,
Do you think that this WITTS group are legit? So you have a bigger setup? 110 or 220 volts? Is it running your home electricity?  :o so eager to make one  :o

Quote from: crazycut06 on October 14, 2012, 04:24:40 PM

Quote from: Romero on October 14, 2012, 02:51:42 PM

Quote from: Highway on October 14, 2012, 09:56:39 AM
Romero i admire your job here.  Remember the Tesla car with the box ?

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF00efOgTCM&feature=player_embedded

Keep is simple it is only 1900's technology. ::)

I managed to replicate another experiment from WITTS but not the one in your link.
Check the link here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFu-s6ZmGyE


Romero

Hi Romero,
Do you think that this WITTS group are legit? So you have a bigger setup? 110 or 220 volts? Is it running your home electricity?  :o so eager to make one  :o

I don't know if WITTS is legit or not but looking to one of my experiments and comparing with his generator I believe I used the same principle.
I am still running most of my house from the grid and from few solar panels for the lights. None of my experiments are in continous use except my radiant charger for the batteries.
This particular setup is running using less power than it produces but I don't have it built to the right size to power heavy loads, only proof of concept.
I have a larger one started but not finished.

Romero

I looked at their site and they offer the secrets of their inventions, if you give donations which is priced for every unit, all other inventions are feasible, but what startles me is that they manufacture spacecrafts!  that can go to the moon and mars? Which they already did they say!  :o  wow! Are they aliens or something?  ;D

Any ways hope you will share your other setups for us to try...thanks!

Regards
Cc

Quote from: crazycut06 on October 15, 2012, 02:13:47 AM
I looked at their site and they offer the secrets of their inventions, if you give donations which is priced for every unit, all other inventions are feasible, but what startles me is that they manufacture spacecrafts!  that can go to the moon and mars? Which they already did they say!  :o  wow! Are they aliens or something?  ;D

Any ways hope you will share your other setups for us to try...thanks!

Regards
Cc

Anyone can make claims..

This one is on sale they can be connect in series that x factors the output:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk4m1MLZudE

Can you show us your look-a-like schematic Romero ?

Quote from: Highway on October 17, 2012, 05:27:33 PM

This one is on sale they can be connect in series that x factors the output:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk4m1MLZudE

Can you show us your look-a-like schematic Romero ?

I started working to finish the larger one I have and should be ready soon then I will make a video for you to see.

Romero

I have seen videos from kapanadze where he had big gas bottles near the apparatus.

here is something that might make you think very simple.
and if kapanadze said it is so simple you would laugh then look at this!

up to 900% efficiency claimed:
http://www.rexresearch.com/imris/imris.htm
he is not the only one with similar principle
20x overunity claimed:
http://www.rexresearch.com/koldomsv/koldomsv.htm

5x overunity claimed:
http://www.rexresearch.com/nelson/nelson.htm

400% excess energy claimed
http://www.rexresearch.com/articles/activen.htm

if this works this is certainly is so simple that it makes me laugh.

Then the secret component is a highly pressurized spark gap. (gas or liquid)
and ionised gas, plasma is responsible for this effect.

Hi energia9,
If the secret is in the pressurized spark gap, then I wonder if we can modify the incandescent light bulb to make a similar component, since the light bulb already is filled with Neon, or Helium gas. But it is not highly pressurized. So the plasma generated would not be very strong.
But I have a hunch that your suggestion is probably right.
Aaron
P.S: Look at the Gas Discharge Tube (GDT), can it be modified to become a durable plasma spark gap?

Quote from: aaron5120 on October 22, 2012, 05:44:51 AM
Hi energia9,
If the secret is in the pressurized spark gap, then I wonder if we can modify the incandescent light bulb to make a similar component, since the light bulb already is filled with Neon, or Helium gas. But it is not highly pressurized. So the plasma generated would not be very strong.
But I have a hunch that your suggestion is probably right.
Aaron
P.S: Look at the Gas Discharge Tube (GDT), can it be modified to become a durable plasma spark gap?

i recently posted on overunity about this, and people suddenly posted 1 full page of crap. probably to hide those patents i linked.
burying of relevant information is ongoing.

pretty simple thing, we dont have to scratch our heads to do this experiment
but first we need to figure out how to make the component.  or custom make it probably a neon sign tube maker could do it.
5000 torr = 6.6 bar of pressure.

Quote from: energia9 on October 21, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
I have seen videos from kapanadze where he had big gas bottles near the apparatus.

Can you say what was on the gasbottle ?  It can't be hydrogen gas  that would
ignite fast. The Jimmy Sabori Papp Engine used a mix of noble gasses.

If you are building this stuff you must have read the 'rare notes' of the Wardencliff tower. Well i did and still not any o.u. to see here.
What can i do now ?

Hydrogen gas dont ignite without oxygen.

if any gas could be pressurized into a little spark gap we could verify this invention very easily.   
overunity forum reacted negative and ignorant for the second time i posted it

Pavel Imris really claims 900% efficiency and has documented his work
~  http://www.rexresearch.com/imris/imris.htm

They gave no answer ?  Then you must be on the right way.
How about liquid gasses ?  But do you dare to put a spark thru it ?
Let's make a list of gases Tesla could have used.  By the way Tesla said
10 million horsepower by burning ATMOSFERIC NITROGEN.
His Colorado  Springs lab used just air with a spark thru it.
You saw these Rare Notes also ?  Without them the patent is incomplete !! <<

Quote from: energia9 on October 22, 2012, 09:43:35 AM

Quote from: aaron5120 on October 22, 2012, 05:44:51 AM
Hi energia9,
If the secret is in the pressurized spark gap, then I wonder if we can modify the incandescent light bulb to make a similar component, since the light bulb already is filled with Neon, or Helium gas. But it is not highly pressurized. So the plasma generated would not be very strong.
But I have a hunch that your suggestion is probably right.
Aaron
P.S: Look at the Gas Discharge Tube (GDT), can it be modified to become a durable plasma spark gap?

i recently posted on overunity about this, and people suddenly posted 1 full page of crap. probably to hide those patents i linked.
burying of relevant information is ongoing.

pretty simple thing, we dont have to scratch our heads to do this experiment
but first we need to figure out how to make the component.  or custom make it probably a neon sign tube maker could do it.
5000 torr = 6.6 bar of pressure.

Will you stop waisting your time at o.u.com !?
We have to get something ready before 2013 !  Better read here
if you have to. (few shills) www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy  Look for Eric Dollard video. He is the man in this field but he is strange also.
Kapanadze used Tesla and from Tesla most is known. Hurry !

p.s. this works super. gasdiode.

According to:
http://www.asknumbers.com/PressureConversion.aspx

5000 torr = 96.68 psi

DonL

Tesla Did experiments with gases, mostly which could be made with his technique, he has an invention on liquifying air.
So he had done it with either nitrogen ,Oxygen which will turn into Ozone, Hydrogen or Carbon dioxide...
Because Pavel Imris used Xenon it dont necessary means that it wont work with other gases.
any one of you have a guess how could we pressurize a little glass spark gap to that pressure? 
96.6 Psi  = 6.6 bars

Moray and Farnsworth talked about inert gasses in their patents. And Sabori also used inert gasses that glow. So neon, xenon, argon etc. Now we must talk about the pressure. Tesla said 1/10 atm. pressure. Again: they all used the Tesla basic invention know as the Tesla Magnifying Tower. It wasn't a transmitter but a receiver.

And the Moray King zpe book says: itself could coherently couple
with the ZPE, they might discover excessive output energy
using just inert gas without inducing any fusion.

Quote from: Highway on November 13, 2012, 10:39:20 PM
And the Moray King zpe book says: itself could coherently couple
with the ZPE, they might discover excessive output energy
using just inert gas without inducing any fusion.

Thanks Highway for valuable information.
i also wanted to mention about t henry moray
i read that he showed all the parts of his device to others happily,  but he said he wont show 1 little component... which is the key...   
a fragile little component that broke and his device wasnt working without it.
what else can it be than a glass spark gap.
highly pressurized spark gap

Quote from: energia9 on November 13, 2012, 07:45:03 PM
any one of you have a guess how could we pressurize a little glass spark gap to that pressure? 
96.6 Psi  = 6.6 bars

We don't have to start with 96 psi.
Pavel Imris started with a much lower pressure with his first test then increased it.

Quote from: dllabarre on November 13, 2012, 11:49:34 PM

Quote from: energia9 on November 13, 2012, 07:45:03 PM
any one of you have a guess how could we pressurize a little glass spark gap to that pressure? 
96.6 Psi  = 6.6 bars

We don't have to start with 96 psi.
Pavel Imris started with a much lower pressure with his first test then increased it.

im wondering how hot would this spark gap would get.
A glass tube with electrodes built in could be casted in polyester resin, and there could be a little gas inlet somewhere into the thing.
now the question how do we compress the gas into it..
?

have a feeling that just compressed air would show this effect what pavel was writing about...
i think its about pressure....
Higher the pressure the better he says.

The Moray device is online !!
A person by the name of Bruce Perreault has duplicated a Moray tube AND the receiver schematic !  And he made a transistor version of it !  How much can you wish for ??  Look here at the files.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/radiant_energy/

He even has a patent on that valve but released it to the public.
Read the last 50 message pages or so. Then you know enough.
Forget Kapanadze he has made his device in such way to fool us.
Hurry hurry hurry. We have little time left.

Quote from: Highway on November 14, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
The Moray device is online !!
A person by the name of Bruce Perreault has duplicated a Moray tube AND the receiver schematic !  And he made a transistor version of it !  How much can you wish for ??  Look here at the files.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/radiant_energy/

He even has a patent on that valve but released it to the public.
Read the last 50 message pages or so. Then you know enough.
Forget Kapanadze he has made his device in such way to fool us.
Hurry hurry hurry. We have little time left.

Magnificient.
Thank you!
i wish we have a device which powers our heaters in very cold winters without thinking how much we will pay to the greedy suppliers.

Quote from: energia9 on October 21, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
I have seen videos from kapanadze where he had big gas bottles near the apparatus.
here is something that might make you think very simple.
and if kapanadze said it is so simple you would laugh then look at this!
Then the secret component is a highly pressurized spark gap. (gas or liquid)
and ionised gas, plasma is responsible for this effect.

The most lightning in in a tropic region were there is a lot of
swampgas or methaangas in the air !  Without oxigen this could work !

(by now you would see that in the radiant forum a lot of stupid people there)

If you only look for heat look for Peter Davey device. Cop of 20 !
And another Imris type here: US20050057116
Simple and promising. Keep us posted here.

i did experiment with highly pressurized spark gap.  right now only with air... i cant contain the high pressures inside for a long time, i was able to go up to 14 bars  10500 torr.   double the amount pavel talked about.
but the pressure is leaking out quickly, i think the gases inside dont have enough time to ionise properly
but there is indeed difference between atmospheric pressure spark gap and very high pressure spark gap.  it needs to be researched further, it worths it..
other than air, i cant put any other pure gases inside my spark gap.

but if anyone wants to experiment along with me. 
this is how i did it.
i bought  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250g-Polymorph-Thermoplastic-Friendly-Plastic-DIY-/170701280532?pt=UK_Body_Shop_Supplies_Paint&hash=item27be96d514&_uhb=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVuc6RNyaw
the guy holds a 250 gram package in the vid,  you really get lots of plastic for your money
its cheap and reusable for ever.! i found this plastic even tougher than ordinary plastic, very hard. good stuff!

and this:  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELECTRIC-12V-AIR-PUMP-TYRE-INFLATOR-COMPRESSOR-250-PSI-CITROEN-SM-/120886592714?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item1c256704ca&_uhb=1
i bought some russian type spark gaps in enclosed glass envelope  i made an inlet to the glass and covered the whole thing with thermoplastic ,   it holds nice but need to make an inlet that will not release the pressure.
the pressure is enormeus inside the tube, if i let go of the compressor head it blows off so violent..

I have got some other experiments too!
check my animation on how i see energy amplification this way
my logic tells me this. 
i even did experiments with this and it shows that it is real simple.
the output needs to be synchronised with the input energy pulses
so they combine and give a greater output at the following pulses.

http://www.miniclip.com/sketch-star/en/animation/10332859/pulse

the problems i encountered during the experiments are that a capacitor at the input and at the output will want to balance eachothers voltage out
i havent figured out yet how to make a switching circuit that will solve this problem.
i will need the output discharge the same time as the input goes in,   

If you only look for heat look for Peter Davey device. Cop of 20 !

That gives results. Why try invent something yourselve when you even cannot
replicate something existing ??

Quote from: Highway on December 07, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
If you only look for heat look for Peter Davey device. Cop of 20 !

That gives results. Why try invent something yourselve when you even cannot
replicate something existing ??

Nature is allready invented!! we just discover it.!!!!

thanks for the davey device info.  i have looked through it.
the guy plugs it into the mains outlet
this is not free energy, this is energy from the mains...
he pulls abt 2-3kw , sure that will boil water immidately
the guy dont have any knoweledge on electricity.
its misinformation
sorry

How old are you... ?  He doies NOT use a.c.  And it is compared to a heater spiral and calculated that the Davey device heats 20 times faster with the same power input.
You are not well informed but live inside yourself. Sorry to see this.

Quote from: Highway on December 10, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
How old are you... ?  He doies NOT use a.c.  And it is compared to a heater spiral and calculated that the Davey device heats 20 times faster with the same power input.
You are not well informed but live inside yourself. Sorry to see this.

ok

Info on how Kapanadze device works and how is extracting power from the ground and ambient.
Patent: US 2008/0191580

Another method that looks similar to Kapanadze or Don Smith

Hey...recently in france a guy named Fabrice Andr? made succesuful replication  of kapanatze generator type..he is open guy  and give informations about his device ;
Look at these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hVasVR7AI
http://library.liberaenergio.org/files/-%20Free%20Energy/Tariel%20Kapanadze%20Replicas/Fabrice%20Andre%202kW/video/Kapagen%20Components%20Explanation%20by%20Fabrice%20Andre%20at%20Refuge7%20L.mp4

On the energetic forum some guys trying  to replicate...
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-328.html
I tried to contact Naudin via email and ask him to contact Andre Fabrice but my mail was rejected...

@sinergicus
Hi,
I have been trying most of these ideas but without success. I have many projects started but not finished.
For the last few months I've been  doing some repairs and redecorating my house and it feels will never end, fixing something and discovering more to be done...
I have contacted J L Naudin in the past, last time few months back and the email worked fine, just try again.( JNaudin509@aol.com )