Dave45 work and suggestions
Ed Leedskalnin's pmh is a simple device but we need to understand whats happening, when a magnetic field is induced the electric field is induced also and continuously orbits the coil unless the magnetic field is broken then the electric field collapses into the coils windings (bemf)
Here is a vid that shows whats happening if understood properly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHkcJ0rCIXQ
In this pic I have a secondary wound on one of the coils, if a small current were oscillated through this secondary winding I believe we could tap the electric field without collapsing it, I think this is the bases of the TPU by SM.
With your magnet motors I think the electric field could be put to use, using Eds pmh we can induce an electric field on both sides of the rotor.
Here Rod shows this effect, its the electric field that is effecting the aluminum ring, the magnetic field has no effect on aluminum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ZS6oR5Zjk&feature=feedu
Also to raise the voltage in your coils the core should be made like this, this core focuses the magnetic field leaving the core and stops the opposite magnetic field from entering the core forcing it to enter the coils windings, it will be attracted to the windings because of the electrical current in the windings.
A magnet is not attracted to copper but it is if there is current in the copper, try it.
The electric field of a magnet or coil is as important as the magnetic field it needs to be utilized in all devices, by understanding how it runs we can look at any device and understand how it works and improve those devices.
If you do not understand you will never make a working device and if by chance you do you will not understand how it works.
If you look at the ufo and take into account the electric field its a simple device
This is how the electric field couples with the magnetic field. before they are coupled together the magnetic field is a neutral field and cold.
When the particles are stripped from the magnetic field it creates a cooling effect that has been experienced by many researchers.
The rings of saturn are the electric field
Notice the image of saturn and the image of the ufo, they are utilizing the same principles as the planets, the magnetic field and the electric field
My experiments with the ice made me understand what was happening and the observations of a galaxy and how it works.
Thank you Dave45 for this info.
Regards,
Romero
Your very welcome :D
Here's how a planets electric field couples with its magnetic field
I show these fields as concentric rings for ease of drawing but in fact they are vortex fields
If you want to understand how the electric field moves in opposite directions from the equatorial plane we need to look at the galaxy.
First look at this galaxy you can see the spiraled arms are moving into the core in a right hand spiral but if we turn the galaxy and look at the other side the spirals move into the core with a left hand spiral.
The spiraled arms of a galaxy are in the electric field of that galaxy and they connect with the magnetic field at the core.
The core of a galaxy is the magnetic core not a black hole, a galaxy or planet is an inductor with a magnetic field and an electric field.
The aether is the electric field of a galaxy it moves through the planets and stars towards the core of the galaxy.
The planets draw this aether into their core with their magnetic field this is what heats the planets core and is the energy that fires our sun and other stars.
Without this aether our sun would go dark and our planet would be cold and lifeless.
Its kind of ironic that the only field we can see in the universe is the least understood, you cant see the magnetic field in galaxy's or planets, just the electric field.
I seen a vid once of the tpu with two toroid cores and this totally makes sense
the first image is the pmh
the second image the tpu
the tpu is the same only with another toroid with windings, pulse the windings with a small voltage and collect the electric field created by the first toroid.
The field created by the first toroid will be constant if wired like the pmh it wont lose its field as long as the magnetic field is not broken, remember the vid.
You should be able to use a small voltage to make a large voltage.
And remember the pmh has been known to hold its charge for months maybe longer if built right, a free field to drain from.
Old Ed had it right didnt he ;)
I think free energy could be made easier with the tpu but the magnet motor could be used to generate gyroscopic thrust and antigravity.
this is the Don Smith device it will go overunity
Quote from: Dave45 on January 15, 2012, 04:07:27 PM
this is the Don Smith device it will go overunity
check this link here, very similar with what you describe http://underservice.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5.0;attach=477
Regards,
Romero
Hey Ramero
I truly believe this is the key to ou
our systems have to be bidirectional because a coil is bidirectional
our systems have to be symmetrical our coils put out two electrical fields one cw and one ccw, here is a vid of a coil wound in only one direction but if you look at the top center you can see the coil is vibrating in both directions from the center out, this is the electric field, the electric field transfers energy not the magnetic field as we have been taught.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZfwQAAMk0
Guy's its the electric field that transfer's energy not the magnetic field.
This is Ingener99's coil and its field interactions
The secret of the universe
magnetic flux does not transfer energy
THE ELECTRIC FIELD TRANSFER'S ENERGY
the magnetic field does not transfer energy, the electric field does the transfer in this visual you can see where lenz comes from we are not collecting it.
Ramero I sent you a pm over on energetic forum did you get it?
Quote from: Dave45 on January 16, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
Ramero I sent you a pm over on energetic forum did you get it?
got it and answered back
Romero
;)
you are good and fast on drawings :)
Thanks I updated it
@Dave45
Are the two coils in the pic below wound like a caduceus or a bi-filer coil.
Cheers Hitman
caduceus I haven't wound it yet. dont have the core
Quote from: Dave45 on January 27, 2012, 10:07:39 PM
caduceus I haven't wound it yet. dont have the core
What core are you thinking to use?
Hey got any suggestions
Core materials seem hard to get, large toroids, and large three phase EI cores
If anyone has a good source would sure appreciate a link
dave
Quote from: Dave45 on January 28, 2012, 12:03:53 AM
Core materials seem hard to get, large toroids, and large three phase EI cores
If anyone has a good source would sure appreciate a link
dave
I used this one for ferrite and high quality cores http://www.ferroxcube.com/
This one for laminations http://www.ascocomponents.co.uk/
This is how energy is transferred from a magnet to the coils
when the magnet lines up with the coil the magnetic field expands through the core, the electric field follows along the magnetic field and transfers energy into the coil windings
To increase energy in the coils wind the coils like this
when the energy from the magnet circulates through the windings it will create an opposing field that will collapse into the coil windings when the magnet passes the coil, this is bemf, to collect this field we need to wind another winding on the coils that is counter to the winding already there, just like a transformer is wound
I think a diodes would be needed with the coil windings, this will allow the windings to only conduct one way, and stop anymore action reaction responses with the coils.
I believe a shorted coil as in Ed's pmh creates a standing electric field that can be drained from.
This diagram basically puts the magnet motor inside a toroid or transformer configuration, the shorted coils should bring energy to the system without much input from us.
Or wind a shorted coil on the coils themselves.
This guy posted on energetic forum today, we need to pay attention
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=237054316378078&set=a.233494063400770.56898.100002205357859&type=3&theater
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=233494786734031&set=a.233494063400770.56898.100002205357859&type=3&theater
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=235809083169268&set=a.142934402456737.37125.100002205357859&type=1&theater
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1KALMgFscg&list=UUdmFG5BeS0YnD2b5zasXXng&index=1&feature=plcp
Thank you Dave45, let's see what is he going to show us in the next video.
I like you recent posted pictures.
Regards,
Romero
I think I finally finished the magnetic model to the best of my understanding, not that it will not change if further developments occur.
I forgot to upload ;D
What is lenz
Iv looked and searched for free energy that makes sense, something that can be understood, something that did not come from another dimension ::)
I keep coming back to the pmh or the shorted coil, its the only thing that makes sence
The pmh is the real free energy generator, why, because when charged we can draw from the electric field without breaking the magnetic dipole.
Here is the pmh
There are vids on the tube that show than when the magnetic field is broken the energy returns to the coils and lights a bulb.
Ok here is what I believe happens, when the coils of the pmh are energized they create a magnetic field that runs through the iron and an electric field the orbits the coils, when the magnetic field is broken the electric field enters the coils and lights the light........... a type of bemf
If the above is true then we should be able to wind another winding on top of the pmh coils pulse a weak signal through these windings and gather an enormous kick from the electric field that is already orbiting the coils, and this field will draw in its own energy because the magnetic field has not been broken, it will replenish itself without any input from us because it is attracted to the magnetic field which has not been broken.
This is how SM tpu works, very small input once the pmh is energized
I think a shorted coil in a solenoid type situation will ring down because it is basically a resonant LC tank, and will boost a device, but the pmh will not ring down because the magnetic field is still circulating though the toroid.
i will do some play with this
pulse weak signal through secondary
If you want free electricity
Dave45 , have you tested it?
Regards,
Romero
Hi Dave45,
Is your schematic has the same principle as beardens meg? what are the magnets orientation?
Sorry I didnt get back sooner, no I have not finished it, I havent tested it.
If you watch Woopy's latest vids he's getting alot of energy using this same setup without the perm magnets, the magnets should enhance the effect.
dave
I'll let you know how it goes, Im going to build this one, I have a few idea's on how to make this go much further.
The magnets orientation are the same, we have to work with the fields, it has to work naturally.
Another confirmation of the electric field and its polarity's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xq9VVGYoSU&feature=uploademail
I think this fits here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUI11GlPaphbBnNwxAtlF-2Q&feature=player_detailpage&v=qrMaAO10XSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUI11GlPaphbBnNwxAtlF-2Q&feature=player_detailpage&v=BFuYYMBiJ94
Hey everyone
I ran accross this patent on ou forum and I was wondering if this is the key we are looking for, it reminds me of how a dc gen works and why there is has to be a commutator for electricity to flow. Anyway thought I would post it here and see what you guy's thought.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20080129397.pdf
Thank you Dave45, it seems easy enough to be tested. I will give it a try soon.
Best Regards,
Romero
Does a coil radiate energy
When the power is on the magnetic field keeps the A vector field in check but when power is off the magnetic field dissipates and the A vector expands radiating energy.
Just something to think about ;)
How does this iron ring create a barrier that separates thousands of volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw&list=UUl9OJE9OpXui-gRsnWjSrlA&index=76
Quote from: Dave45 on March 14, 2013, 01:00:06 PM
How does this iron ring create a barrier that separates thousands of volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw&list=UUl9OJE9OpXui-gRsnWjSrlA&index=76
I have no idea how that iron ring stops that high voltage, I would expect to see discharge directly to the ring...
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How does this iron ring create a barrier that separates thousands of volts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkh7_Eyctw&list=UUl9OJE9OpXui-gRsnWjSrlA&index=76
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I think it is not an iron bar, it's a plastic tube used in holding electrical wires... ;) look closely it has a slit all the way around.
I believe its iron, it has a plastic cover but its not enough of a dielectric to stop that high of a voltage.
Notice at one point the high voltage goes around the toroid but never through it, this needs to be studied and put to use.
I believe a coil separates charge in its magnetic field this may stop that charge from recombining when the coil is off, Im going to build one to play with.
In our search we look for anomaly's and this is definitely one. I wonder if a capacitor could be made this way.
A torus wound coil powered with 12v
Quote from: Dave45 on March 17, 2013, 10:55:55 PM
A torus wound coil powered with 12v
That ice is cool man! Lol! You can see the magnetic field lines, ;)
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alternative
This coil was wound bifilar kindof same principle canceled magnetic field,
edit: forgot I added text to the pic ;D
In regards to the aether, are we pulling electrons from the aether or are we adding energy to the electrons in a system with a finite amount of electrons.
Say we have a system with a finite amount of electrons to work with, can we add energy to the system by adding energy to the electron.
Can we add energy to the electron by physically spinning it to a higher velocity,
According to radar tech a ring magnet has a spinning vortex in its core, this is what spins the electron produced by the thorium filament.
If we put layered pancake coils in the core can we add energy to the electrons moving through the system.
This is a project Im considering and some of the questions and logic behind the design.
http://www.radartutorial.eu/08.transmitters/tx08.en.html
The magnetic field expels the electrons from its field, this is why a magnetic field exerts a force on a current carrying wire, this makes our motors run.
So if a pancake coil is inserted in a magnetic field the magnetic field should push against the wire but if the wire is not moveable it should try to expel the electron in the wire, adding energy to the system.
Its in the geometry we just have to find the right design.
Quote from: Romero on March 10, 2013, 02:25:54 AM
Thank you Dave45, it seems easy enough to be tested. I will give it a try soon.
Best Regards,
Romero
Hey Romero did you ever give this a go, just curious
dave
Quote from: Dave45 on April 06, 2013, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: Romero on March 10, 2013, 02:25:54 AM
Thank you Dave45, it seems easy enough to be tested. I will give it a try soon.
Best Regards,
Romero
Hey Romero did you ever give this a go, just curious
dave
Hi Dave,
I did and nothing interesting, maybe as always something is not fully revealed in the patent. It works just as a normal transformer with no extra gain.
For the last few months I have experimented Barbat patent and there I found extra power. Must have treated wire for that.
One very important aspect is to calculate the coils to resonate at certain frequency but for a coil to resonate at 50Hz I found it impossible because of the coil dimensions and wire length. Must be something that we miss somewhere.
Romero
Thanks Romero
Is this the Barbat device you are referring too http://www.rexresearch.com/barbat/barbat.htm
Quote from: Dave45 on April 07, 2013, 02:10:02 AM
Thanks Romero
Is this the Barbat device you are referring too http://www.rexresearch.com/barbat/barbat.htm
yes, that is the one.
Romero
Quote from: Romero on April 07, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
Quote from: Dave45 on April 07, 2013, 02:10:02 AM
Thanks Romero
Is this the Barbat device you are referring too http://www.rexresearch.com/barbat/barbat.htm
yes, that is the one.
Romero
Outstanding I had high hopes for this one, the geometry is right.
Sure would like to hear your results and a pic if you have time.
What special wire did you use, you are a true experimenter and I salute you friend.
I finished building the zvs this morning I havent fired it up yet, may go up in smoke ;D I soldered it onto perfboard.
I dont have time to test it today Im helping my brother pull the transmission out of his truck... what fun :-\
The project Im working on is similar to the Barbat device, this is what Im building the zvs for.
Still have to wind the coils
@Dave45
ZVS is simple but good for many experiments. Nothing to worry about, just make sure your primary is not more than 5-7 turns for each side. More turns can lock the circuit and burn mosfets very quick.You can use it with ferrite and air core too.
For Barbat experiment I used copper wire burnet then cleaned many times. I have also tried with copper wire that I kept in a bath of acid for a while.
I have only experimented with a sending coil not with the light or LED as source as I don't know what wavelength to operate but I will give it a try.
Below you can see the main coil.
I built 2 identical coils and originally treated only one to compare then, after seeing the difference I treated the other one too. The difference is about 30-40% more power out using the treated coil. I am in the process of trying different methods and materials.
I jump from one project to another many times and this one came while I had to wait for some parts to arrive for a variant of Kapanadze.
Barbat method can be used with one the circuits below
Source of the last 2 pictures http://www.scribd.com/doc/80152713/Energy-Patent-KOREAN
Best regards,
Romero
Dave45 can you please explain more that picture you posted? is that primary? Secondary??? If that is primary I believe ZVS is not going to work.
Romero
30 to 40 % more power increase, thats impressive, Iv thought of gold plating using electrolysis but have not tried it.
The pic I posted
The primary will wind on the center and secondary's on the outer toroids
Found this on the web, cant remember where
Another one, havent wound any secondary's yet, the core should saturate easy ::) who knows
I want it to fly ;D
The zvs
I was hoping to increase the capacitance as I added more turns to the primary, This should lower the frequency but will also pull current through the fets longer, they may heat up, we'll see, Im ordering transistor sockets so I can change out the fets on the next one.
I think the larger coils give a higher bemf which is collected in the cap, adding capacitance should allow for the larger bemf, I hope.
I read the Hubbard device it worked better with pulsed dc, the Hubbard and Barbat devices are similar, so may set up a darlington with a pwm, Im a rooky so need simple circuits :D
My thinking
When a coil is powered up the field created is opposite the applied current, when the power is turned off the field created collapses into the coil........bemf.
If magnetic bands (cores) are placed around the coil when the coils power is off the created field will not collapse because the magnetic field has not collapsed, its still circulating in the cores, shielding the coil....... no bemf.
Just thinking
A solenoid wound coil should have the same magnetic field as a ring magnet if powered with dc.
If we make a coil comparison to the ring magnets the outer coil would be wound cw and the inner coils would both be wound ccw, the inner coils are repelled to each other but are attracted to the outer coil.
If the outer coil were pulsed the inner coils would interact with primary but not each other.
Spinning field
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-26-2014/fHhrt1.gif
Capacitive discharge on both sides
spiral rotor
Would this not eliminate cogging completely
We should be able to eliminate cogging even in alternators by coupling and offsetting the shafts.
volkswagen uses a through shaft alternator